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From: Marco Chiappero <marco@absence.it>
To: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
Cc: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org,
	Mattia Dongili <malattia@linux.it>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 19/25] sony-laptop: add touchpad enable/disable control file
Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 03:54:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DE9904E.7050805@absence.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201106031512.38349.dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>

Il 04/06/2011 00:12, Dmitry Torokhov ha scritto:
> The quirk is that for given device there is a sysfs attribute somewhere
> that one can write something into to turn the touchpad off.

Once again, let's have a single unified interface. Are you saying that 
the GNU world is not able to do that?

>> This is false, especially for (so many) people using Windows too, where
>> the feature is clearly visible by the OEM software.
>
> Thankfully OEM software either does not exist or is not widespread on
> Linux.

But the point is not to clone the OEM software (but we need to do it 
when there is nothing else), we do want to clone the functionality only, 
people just want to make that (well, every) hardware feature available 
under linux. Saying that X offers a workaround is, IMHO, a fail. Once 
again: the feature is known, OEM software has nothing to do with it.

> No, I indeed can not speak for everybody, but it is my belief that this
> feature in the form it is implemented will not be widely used.

That's your belief... sorry, but after paying 1300 Eur for a laptop I 
don't care about your belief, I'd like to see my laptop fully supported, 
since we can do it.

> No, it's like saying railroad tracks should be unified instead of every
> country inventing their own size. We all know how helpful it was.

No, at all, that is what I was saying. Again, let's create a common 
interface.

>> It's a common and widespread feature, let's support it better instead of
>> just removing it.
>
> What is the feature again? What do users really want to do here?

Have their touchpad disabled, and have it disabled when using either 
windows or linux. That's what the user payed for.
Discussing what the user should be interested in, whether a real power 
saving is achievable or not, is a totally wrong starting point, it's not 
your own business.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-04  1:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 129+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-03 15:22 [PATCH 0/25] sony-laptop: code improvements and support extension for newer Vaios Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 15:26 ` [PATCH 1/25] sony-laptop: use usigned data type when calling ACPI methods Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 15:28 ` [PATCH 2/25] sony-laptop: simple_strtoul replaced by strict_strtoul Marco Chiappero
2011-06-12 21:56   ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-03 15:29 ` [PATCH 3/25] sony-laptop: new ACPI SN06 method helper functions Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 15:32 ` [PATCH 4/25] sony-laptop: new SNC setup and cleanup functions Marco Chiappero
2011-06-12 22:21   ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-13  0:01     ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-13  1:28       ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-13  9:39         ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-13 13:42           ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-13 14:10             ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-18 22:50               ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-18 23:06       ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-28  9:27         ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-28 10:04           ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-01 10:54             ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-13 22:19               ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-14 22:05                 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-07-18 14:49                   ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-19 22:03                     ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-20 13:49     ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 15:33 ` [PATCH 5/25] sony-laptop: new handles " Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 15:35 ` [PATCH 6/25] sony-laptop: new notebook controller resume function Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 15:36 ` [PATCH 7/25] sony-laptop: sony_nc_function_setup modifications Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 15:38 ` [PATCH 8/25] sony-laptop: sony_nc_notify rewritten and improved Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04  8:43   ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-04 11:26     ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-05 22:38       ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-06 12:23         ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-06 12:42           ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-06 12:45             ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-20 14:00         ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-19 21:30           ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-04 12:42     ` Matthew Garrett
2011-06-04 14:22       ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 14:30         ` Matthew Garrett
2011-06-04 14:34           ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 14:36             ` Matthew Garrett
2011-06-04 14:42               ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 14:45                 ` Matthew Garrett
2011-06-04 15:04                   ` Corentin Chary
2011-06-04 16:50                     ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 20:22                 ` Alan Cox
2011-06-05 17:48                   ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-05 19:14                     ` Alan Cox
2011-06-05 20:13                       ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 15:39 ` [PATCH 9/25] sony-laptop: sony_walk_callback moved for better readability Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 15:41 ` [PATCH 10/25] sony-laptop: keyboard backlight support extended to newer Vaios Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04  7:58   ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-04 10:30     ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 11:23       ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-04 11:41         ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-05 22:33           ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-06 12:27             ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-10 12:31     ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-12 22:24       ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-13 14:28         ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-18  4:15           ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-03 15:42 ` [PATCH 11/25] sony-laptop: rfkill improvements Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04  7:59   ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-03 15:43 ` [PATCH 12/25] sony-laptop: input core improvements improvements Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04  8:07   ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-04 10:42     ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 12:44       ` Matthew Garrett
2011-06-04 12:44         ` Matthew Garrett
2011-06-04 13:11         ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-08  8:26       ` Joey Lee
2011-06-08  8:26         ` Joey Lee
2011-06-04 15:21     ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 16:40       ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-04 16:40         ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-04 16:58         ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 16:58           ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-05 22:24           ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-06 13:26             ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-07 14:23               ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-07 15:15                 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-07 16:24                   ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-07 17:59                     ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-20 13:53                       ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-01 11:12                         ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-01 12:50                           ` Matthew Garrett
2011-07-01 14:03                             ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-01 14:09                               ` Matthew Garrett
2011-07-01 14:20                                 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-01 15:06                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2011-07-01 15:11                                     ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-01 15:53                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2011-07-01 16:12                                         ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-19 21:26                         ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-03 15:45 ` [PATCH 13/25] sony-laptop: code style fixes Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 15:46 ` [PATCH 14/25] sony-laptop: battery care functionality added Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 17:33 ` [PATCH 15/25] sony-laptop: add thermal control feature Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 17:45 ` [PATCH 16/25] sony-laptop: add HDD shock protection Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 17:54 ` [PATCH 17/25] sony-laptop: add resume from S4/S3 when opening the lid Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 18:02 ` [PATCH 18/25] sony-laptop: add control file for the HighSpeed Charging feature Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 18:16 ` [PATCH 19/25] sony-laptop: add touchpad enable/disable control file Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 20:23   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-06-03 20:33     ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 21:00       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-06-03 21:46         ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 22:12           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-06-04  1:54             ` Marco Chiappero [this message]
2011-06-04  7:09               ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-04 11:15                 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 12:46                   ` Matthew Garrett
2011-06-04 14:28                     ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 18:28 ` [PATCH 20/25] sony-laptop: add fan related controls Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 18:50 ` [PATCH 21/25] sony-laptop: add optical device power control Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 19:27 ` [PATCH 22/25] sony-laptop: forward Hybrid GFX notifications to userspace Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04  8:48   ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-20 21:12     ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-19 21:50       ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-03 19:49 ` [PATCH 23/25] sony-laptop: add ALS support Marco Chiappero
2011-06-05  5:31   ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-05 22:21     ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-06  7:41       ` Javier Achirica
2011-06-06 13:08         ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-06 13:51           ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-06 22:24             ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-06 23:26               ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-07 16:07                 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-07 17:50                   ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-07 22:39                     ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-08  9:52                       ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 20:10 ` [PATCH 24/25] sony-laptop: backlight device changes Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 20:10 ` [PATCH 25/25] sony-laptop: update copyright owners Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04  8:54 ` [PATCH 0/25] sony-laptop: code improvements and support extension for newer Vaios Mattia Dongili

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