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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Andy Isaacson <adi@hexapodia.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: Do not stall in synchronous compaction for THP allocations
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:14:14 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111111101414.GJ3083@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1111101536330.2194@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 03:37:32PM -0800, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Nov 2011, Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
> > > This patch once again prevents sync migration for transparent
> > > hugepage allocations as it is preferable to fail a THP allocation
> > > than stall.
> > 
> > Who said?  ;) Presumably some people would prefer to get lots of
> > huge pages for their 1000-hour compute job, and waiting a bit to get
> > those pages is acceptable.
> > 
> 
> Indeed.  It seems like the behavior would better be controlled with 
> /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/defrag which is set aside specifically 
> to control defragmentation for transparent hugepages and for that 
> synchronous compaction should certainly apply.

With khugepaged in place, it's adding a tunable that is unnecessary and
will not be used. Even if such a tuneable was created, the default
behaviour should be "do not stall".

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Andy Isaacson <adi@hexapodia.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: Do not stall in synchronous compaction for THP allocations
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:14:14 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111111101414.GJ3083@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1111101536330.2194@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 03:37:32PM -0800, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Nov 2011, Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
> > > This patch once again prevents sync migration for transparent
> > > hugepage allocations as it is preferable to fail a THP allocation
> > > than stall.
> > 
> > Who said?  ;) Presumably some people would prefer to get lots of
> > huge pages for their 1000-hour compute job, and waiting a bit to get
> > those pages is acceptable.
> > 
> 
> Indeed.  It seems like the behavior would better be controlled with 
> /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/defrag which is set aside specifically 
> to control defragmentation for transparent hugepages and for that 
> synchronous compaction should certainly apply.

With khugepaged in place, it's adding a tunable that is unnecessary and
will not be used. Even if such a tuneable was created, the default
behaviour should be "do not stall".

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-11 10:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-10 10:06 [PATCH] mm: Do not stall in synchronous compaction for THP allocations Mel Gorman
2011-11-10 10:06 ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-10 10:38 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-10 10:38   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-10 10:51 ` Alan Cox
2011-11-10 10:51   ` Alan Cox
2011-11-10 12:06   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-10 12:06     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-10 14:00 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-10 14:00   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-10 14:22 ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-10 14:22   ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-10 15:12   ` Minchan Kim
2011-11-10 15:12     ` Minchan Kim
2011-11-10 16:13     ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-10 16:13       ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-10 16:30       ` Minchan Kim
2011-11-10 16:30         ` Minchan Kim
2011-11-10 16:48         ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-10 16:48           ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-10 23:12       ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-10 23:12         ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-10 23:37         ` David Rientjes
2011-11-10 23:37           ` David Rientjes
2011-11-11 10:14           ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2011-11-11 10:14             ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-11 10:39             ` David Rientjes
2011-11-11 10:39               ` David Rientjes
2011-11-11 11:17               ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-11 11:17                 ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-11 14:21               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-11 14:21                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-14 23:44             ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-14 23:44               ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-15 13:25               ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-15 13:25                 ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-15 21:07                 ` David Rientjes
2011-11-15 21:07                   ` David Rientjes
2011-11-15 23:48                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-15 23:48                     ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-16  0:07                     ` David Rientjes
2011-11-16  0:07                       ` David Rientjes
2011-11-16  4:13                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-16  4:13                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-16 13:30                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-16 13:30                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-16 15:07                           ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-16 15:07                             ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-18 17:59                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-18 17:59                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-16 14:14                         ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-16 14:14                           ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-11 10:01         ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-11 10:01           ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-15  0:03           ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-15  0:03             ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-15  2:00             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-15  2:00               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-15  2:08               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-15  2:08                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-15 15:01                 ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-15 15:01                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-15 15:00               ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-15 15:00                 ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-15 13:07             ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-15 13:07               ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-15 15:47               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-15 15:47                 ` Andrea Arcangeli

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