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From: Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@in.ibm.com>,
	Jim Keniston <jkenisto@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Anton Arapov <anton@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/6] uprobes: kill uprobes_srcu/uprobe_srcu_id
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 15:46:44 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120420101644.GA17994@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1334916861.2463.50.camel@laptop>

* Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> [2012-04-20 12:14:21]:

> On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 23:47 +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > On 04/16, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 01:44 +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > >
> > > > And. I have another reason for down_write() in register/unregister.
> > > > I am still not sure this is possible (I had no time to try to
> > > > implement), but it seems to me we can kill the uprobe counter in
> > > > mm_struct.
> > >
> > > You mean by making register/unregister down_write, you're exclusive with
> > > munmap()
> > 
> > .. and with register/unregister.
> > 
> > Why do we need mm->uprobes_state.count? It is writeonly, except we
> > check it in the DIE_INT3 notifier before anything else to avoid the
> > unnecessary uprobes overhead.
> 
> and uprobe_munmap().

If we can kill mm->uprobs_state.count, we can do away with
uprobe_munmap. Because uprobe_munmap is only around to manage
mm->uprobes_state.count.

> 
> > Suppose we kill it, and add the new MMF_HAS_UPROBE flag instead.
> > install_breakpoint() sets it unconditionally,
> > uprobe_pre_sstep_notifier() checks it.
> 
> Argh, why are MMF_flags part of sched.h.. one would expect those to be
> in mm.h or mm_types.h.. somewhere near struct mm.
> 
> > (And perhaps we can stop right here? I mean how often this can
> >  slow down the debugger which installs int3 in the same mm?)
> > 
> > Now we need to clear MMF_HAS_UPROBE somehowe, when the last
> > uprobe goes away. Lets ignore uprobe_map/unmap for simplicity.
> >
> > 	- We add another flag, MMF_UPROBE_RECALC, it is set by
> > 	  remove_breakpoint().
> > 
> > 	- We change handle_swbp(). Ignoring all details it does:
> > 
> > 		if (find_uprobe(vaddr))
> > 			process_uprobe();
> > 		else if (test_bit(MMF_HAS_UPROBE) && test_bit(MMF_UPROBE_RECALC))
> > 			recalc_mmf_uprobe_flag();
> > 
> > 	  where recalc_mmf_uprobe_flag() checks all vmas and either
> > 	  clears both flags or MMF_UPROBE_RECALC only.
> > 
> > 	  This is the really slow O(n) path, but it can only happen after
> > 	  unregister, and only if we hit another non-uprobe breakpoint
> > 	  in the same mm.
> > 
> > Something like this. What do you think?
> 
> I think I can live with the simple set MMF_HAS_UPROBE and leave it at
> that. The better optimization seems to be to not install breakpoints
> when ->filter() excludes the task..
> 
> It looks like we currently install the breakpoint unconditionally and
> only ->filter() once we hit the breakpoint, which is somewhat
> sub-optimal.
> 

Yes, We install breakpoints unconditionally, I think we had already
discussed this and Oleg had proposed a solution too.
http://lkml.org/lkml/2011/6/16/470 where we move the mm struct from task
struct to signal struct.

-- 
Thanks and Regards
Srikar

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From: Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@in.ibm.com>,
	Jim Keniston <jkenisto@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Anton Arapov <anton@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/6] uprobes: kill uprobes_srcu/uprobe_srcu_id
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 15:46:44 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120420101644.GA17994@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1334916861.2463.50.camel@laptop>

* Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> [2012-04-20 12:14:21]:

> On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 23:47 +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > On 04/16, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 01:44 +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > >
> > > > And. I have another reason for down_write() in register/unregister.
> > > > I am still not sure this is possible (I had no time to try to
> > > > implement), but it seems to me we can kill the uprobe counter in
> > > > mm_struct.
> > >
> > > You mean by making register/unregister down_write, you're exclusive with
> > > munmap()
> > 
> > .. and with register/unregister.
> > 
> > Why do we need mm->uprobes_state.count? It is writeonly, except we
> > check it in the DIE_INT3 notifier before anything else to avoid the
> > unnecessary uprobes overhead.
> 
> and uprobe_munmap().

If we can kill mm->uprobs_state.count, we can do away with
uprobe_munmap. Because uprobe_munmap is only around to manage
mm->uprobes_state.count.

> 
> > Suppose we kill it, and add the new MMF_HAS_UPROBE flag instead.
> > install_breakpoint() sets it unconditionally,
> > uprobe_pre_sstep_notifier() checks it.
> 
> Argh, why are MMF_flags part of sched.h.. one would expect those to be
> in mm.h or mm_types.h.. somewhere near struct mm.
> 
> > (And perhaps we can stop right here? I mean how often this can
> >  slow down the debugger which installs int3 in the same mm?)
> > 
> > Now we need to clear MMF_HAS_UPROBE somehowe, when the last
> > uprobe goes away. Lets ignore uprobe_map/unmap for simplicity.
> >
> > 	- We add another flag, MMF_UPROBE_RECALC, it is set by
> > 	  remove_breakpoint().
> > 
> > 	- We change handle_swbp(). Ignoring all details it does:
> > 
> > 		if (find_uprobe(vaddr))
> > 			process_uprobe();
> > 		else if (test_bit(MMF_HAS_UPROBE) && test_bit(MMF_UPROBE_RECALC))
> > 			recalc_mmf_uprobe_flag();
> > 
> > 	  where recalc_mmf_uprobe_flag() checks all vmas and either
> > 	  clears both flags or MMF_UPROBE_RECALC only.
> > 
> > 	  This is the really slow O(n) path, but it can only happen after
> > 	  unregister, and only if we hit another non-uprobe breakpoint
> > 	  in the same mm.
> > 
> > Something like this. What do you think?
> 
> I think I can live with the simple set MMF_HAS_UPROBE and leave it at
> that. The better optimization seems to be to not install breakpoints
> when ->filter() excludes the task..
> 
> It looks like we currently install the breakpoint unconditionally and
> only ->filter() once we hit the breakpoint, which is somewhat
> sub-optimal.
> 

Yes, We install breakpoints unconditionally, I think we had already
discussed this and Oleg had proposed a solution too.
http://lkml.org/lkml/2011/6/16/470 where we move the mm struct from task
struct to signal struct.

-- 
Thanks and Regards
Srikar


  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-20 10:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-05 22:20 [RFC 0/6] uprobes: kill uprobes_srcu/uprobe_srcu_id Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:20 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:20 ` [PATCH 1/6] uprobes: introduce find_active_uprobe() Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:20   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:21 ` [PATCH 2/6] uprobes: introduce is_swbp_at_addr_fast() Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:21   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-16 10:08   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-16 10:08     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-16 14:44     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-16 14:44       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-16 14:55       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-16 14:55         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-16 15:34         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-16 15:34           ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-17 10:08           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-17 10:08             ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-17 17:09             ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-17 17:09               ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-17 19:53               ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-17 19:53                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-05 22:21 ` [PATCH 3/6] uprobes: teach find_active_uprobe() to provide the "is_swbp" info Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:21   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:21 ` [PATCH 4/6] uprobes: change register_for_each_vma() to take mm->mmap_sem for writing Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:21   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:22 ` [PATCH 5/6] uprobes: teach handle_swbp() to rely on "is_swbp" rather than uprobes_srcu Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:22   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:22 ` [PATCH 6/6] uprobes: kill uprobes_srcu/uprobe_srcu_id Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:22   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-14 11:16 ` [RFC 0/6] " Ingo Molnar
2012-04-14 11:16   ` Ingo Molnar
2012-04-16 11:31   ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-04-16 11:31     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-04-16 14:41     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-16 14:41       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-25 12:52       ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-04-25 12:52         ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-04-25 14:22         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-25 14:22           ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-14 13:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-14 13:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-14 20:52   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-14 20:52     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-15 10:51     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-15 10:51       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-15 19:53       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-15 19:53         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-15 21:48         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-15 21:48           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-15 23:44           ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-15 23:44             ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-16 10:16             ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-16 10:16               ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-16 21:47               ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-16 21:47                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-20 10:14                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-20 10:14                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-20 10:16                   ` Srikar Dronamraju [this message]
2012-04-20 10:16                     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-04-20 18:58                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-20 18:58                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-20 18:37                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-20 18:37                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-23  7:14                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-23  7:14                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-23  7:24                       ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-04-23  7:24                         ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-04-23  7:40                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-23  7:40                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-23 17:29                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-23 17:29                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-23 19:18                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-23 19:18                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-23 20:50                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-23 20:50                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-23 21:25                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-23 21:25                                   ` Oleg Nesterov

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