From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
Subject: Re: Memory allocator semantics
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 04:09:16 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140211120915.GP4250@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOJsxLHs890eypzfnNj4ff1zqy_=bC8FA7B0YYbcZQF_c_wSog@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:50:24AM +0200, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Paul E. McKenney
> <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > From what I can see, (A) works by accident, but is kind of useless because
> > you allocate and free the memory without touching it. (B) and (C) are the
> > lightest touches I could imagine, and as you say, both are bad. So I
> > believe that it is reasonable to prohibit (A).
> >
> > Or is there some use for (A) that I am missing?
>
> So again, there's nothing in (A) that the memory allocator is
> concerned about. kmalloc() makes no guarantees whatsoever about the
> visibility of "r1" across CPUs. If you're saying that there's an
> implicit barrier between kmalloc() and kfree(), that's an unintended
> side-effect, not a design decision AFAICT.
Thank you. That was what I suspected, and I believe that it is a
completely reasonable response to (A).
Thanx, Paul
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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
Subject: Re: Memory allocator semantics
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 04:09:16 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140211120915.GP4250@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOJsxLHs890eypzfnNj4ff1zqy_=bC8FA7B0YYbcZQF_c_wSog@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:50:24AM +0200, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Paul E. McKenney
> <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > From what I can see, (A) works by accident, but is kind of useless because
> > you allocate and free the memory without touching it. (B) and (C) are the
> > lightest touches I could imagine, and as you say, both are bad. So I
> > believe that it is reasonable to prohibit (A).
> >
> > Or is there some use for (A) that I am missing?
>
> So again, there's nothing in (A) that the memory allocator is
> concerned about. kmalloc() makes no guarantees whatsoever about the
> visibility of "r1" across CPUs. If you're saying that there's an
> implicit barrier between kmalloc() and kfree(), that's an unintended
> side-effect, not a design decision AFAICT.
Thank you. That was what I suspected, and I believe that it is a
completely reasonable response to (A).
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-02-11 12:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-01-02 20:33 Memory allocator semantics Paul E. McKenney
2014-01-02 20:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-01-03 3:39 ` Josh Triplett
2014-01-03 3:39 ` Josh Triplett
2014-01-03 5:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-01-03 5:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-01-03 5:47 ` Josh Triplett
2014-01-03 5:47 ` Josh Triplett
2014-01-03 7:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-01-03 7:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-01-03 8:42 ` Josh Triplett
2014-01-03 8:42 ` Josh Triplett
2014-02-08 10:27 ` Pekka Enberg
2014-02-08 10:27 ` Pekka Enberg
2014-02-09 2:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-02-09 2:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-02-11 8:50 ` Pekka Enberg
2014-02-11 8:50 ` Pekka Enberg
2014-02-11 12:09 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2014-02-11 12:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-02-11 18:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-02-11 18:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-02-14 17:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-02-14 17:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-02-10 19:07 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-02-10 19:07 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-02-11 12:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-02-11 12:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-02-11 13:20 ` Pekka Enberg
2014-02-11 13:20 ` Pekka Enberg
2014-02-11 15:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-02-11 15:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
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