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From: Pekka Enberg <penberg@iki.fi>
To: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: cl@linux-foundation.org, penberg@kernel.org, mpm@selenic.com
Subject: Re: Memory allocator semantics
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 12:27:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52F60699.8010204@iki.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140102203320.GA27615@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

Hi Paul,

On 01/02/2014 10:33 PM, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>  From what I can see, the Linux-kernel's SLAB, SLOB, and SLUB memory
> allocators would deal with the following sort of race:
>
> A.	CPU 0: r1 = kmalloc(...); ACCESS_ONCE(gp) = r1;
>
> 	CPU 1: r2 = ACCESS_ONCE(gp); if (r2) kfree(r2);
>
> However, my guess is that this should be considered an accident of the
> current implementation rather than a feature.  The reason for this is
> that I cannot see how you would usefully do (A) above without also allowing
> (B) and (C) below, both of which look to me to be quite destructive:
>
> B.	CPU 0: r1 = kmalloc(...);  ACCESS_ONCE(shared_x) = r1;
>
>          CPU 1: r2 = ACCESS_ONCE(shared_x); if (r2) kfree(r2);
>
> 	CPU 2: r3 = ACCESS_ONCE(shared_x); if (r3) kfree(r3);
>
> 	This results in the memory being on two different freelists.
>
> C.      CPU 0: r1 = kmalloc(...);  ACCESS_ONCE(shared_x) = r1;
>
> 	CPU 1: r2 = ACCESS_ONCE(shared_x); r2->a = 1; r2->b = 2;
>
> 	CPU 2: r3 = ACCESS_ONCE(shared_x); if (r3) kfree(r3);
>
> 	CPU 3: r4 = kmalloc(...);  r4->s = 3; r4->t = 4;
>
> 	This results in the memory being used by two different CPUs,
> 	each of which believe that they have sole access.
>
> But I thought I should ask the experts.
>
> So, am I correct that kernel hackers are required to avoid "drive-by"
> kfree()s of kmalloc()ed memory?

So to be completely honest, I don't understand what is the race in (A) 
that concerns the *memory allocator*.  I also don't what the memory 
allocator can do in (B) and (C) which look like double-free and 
use-after-free, respectively, to me. :-)

                       Pekka

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From: Pekka Enberg <penberg@iki.fi>
To: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: cl@linux-foundation.org, penberg@kernel.org, mpm@selenic.com
Subject: Re: Memory allocator semantics
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 12:27:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52F60699.8010204@iki.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140102203320.GA27615@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

Hi Paul,

On 01/02/2014 10:33 PM, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>  From what I can see, the Linux-kernel's SLAB, SLOB, and SLUB memory
> allocators would deal with the following sort of race:
>
> A.	CPU 0: r1 = kmalloc(...); ACCESS_ONCE(gp) = r1;
>
> 	CPU 1: r2 = ACCESS_ONCE(gp); if (r2) kfree(r2);
>
> However, my guess is that this should be considered an accident of the
> current implementation rather than a feature.  The reason for this is
> that I cannot see how you would usefully do (A) above without also allowing
> (B) and (C) below, both of which look to me to be quite destructive:
>
> B.	CPU 0: r1 = kmalloc(...);  ACCESS_ONCE(shared_x) = r1;
>
>          CPU 1: r2 = ACCESS_ONCE(shared_x); if (r2) kfree(r2);
>
> 	CPU 2: r3 = ACCESS_ONCE(shared_x); if (r3) kfree(r3);
>
> 	This results in the memory being on two different freelists.
>
> C.      CPU 0: r1 = kmalloc(...);  ACCESS_ONCE(shared_x) = r1;
>
> 	CPU 1: r2 = ACCESS_ONCE(shared_x); r2->a = 1; r2->b = 2;
>
> 	CPU 2: r3 = ACCESS_ONCE(shared_x); if (r3) kfree(r3);
>
> 	CPU 3: r4 = kmalloc(...);  r4->s = 3; r4->t = 4;
>
> 	This results in the memory being used by two different CPUs,
> 	each of which believe that they have sole access.
>
> But I thought I should ask the experts.
>
> So, am I correct that kernel hackers are required to avoid "drive-by"
> kfree()s of kmalloc()ed memory?

So to be completely honest, I don't understand what is the race in (A) 
that concerns the *memory allocator*.  I also don't what the memory 
allocator can do in (B) and (C) which look like double-free and 
use-after-free, respectively, to me. :-)

                       Pekka

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-02-09 14:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-02 20:33 Memory allocator semantics Paul E. McKenney
2014-01-02 20:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-01-03  3:39 ` Josh Triplett
2014-01-03  3:39   ` Josh Triplett
2014-01-03  5:14   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-01-03  5:14     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-01-03  5:47     ` Josh Triplett
2014-01-03  5:47       ` Josh Triplett
2014-01-03  7:57       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-01-03  7:57         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-01-03  8:42         ` Josh Triplett
2014-01-03  8:42           ` Josh Triplett
2014-02-08 10:27 ` Pekka Enberg [this message]
2014-02-08 10:27   ` Pekka Enberg
2014-02-09  2:00   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-02-09  2:00     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-02-11  8:50     ` Pekka Enberg
2014-02-11  8:50       ` Pekka Enberg
2014-02-11 12:09       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-02-11 12:09         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-02-11 18:43       ` Christoph Lameter
2014-02-11 18:43         ` Christoph Lameter
2014-02-14 17:30         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-02-14 17:30           ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-02-10 19:07   ` Christoph Lameter
2014-02-10 19:07     ` Christoph Lameter
2014-02-11 12:14     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-02-11 12:14       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-02-11 13:20       ` Pekka Enberg
2014-02-11 13:20         ` Pekka Enberg
2014-02-11 15:01         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-02-11 15:01           ` Paul E. McKenney

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