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From: will.deacon@arm.com (Will Deacon)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v2] clocksource: arch_timer: Allow the device tree to specify the physical timer
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 18:07:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140911170716.GA6158@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD=FV=WECbZ4L=-C+F9K6kfiPUi7ar3a4a7Upq2TqDYYPGoOrA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 05:59:53PM +0100, Doug Anderson wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com> wrote:
> > I'd say `Only supported for ARM' to better match what we've done. Probably
> > also worth mentioning that this relies on the hypervisor/firmware having set
> > CNTHCTL.PL1PCEN and CNTHCTL.EL1PCTEN (but assumedly made a mess of CNTVOFF
> > ;) if you want to boot on the non-secure side (e.g. as a guest).
> 
> Note that the reset value of CNTHCTL.PL1PCEN and CNTHCTL.PL1PCTEN are
> both 1 in my version of the ARM ARM.  On the other hand CNTVOFF is
> documented to have an UNKNOWN reset value.  If only ARM had guaranteed
> that CNTVOFF started out as 0 (which seems like it would have been
> sensible) we wouldn't be in this mess.  :-/

I'm afraid we went the opposite way -- in ARMv8 there are a tiny handful
of EL3 registers that are well-defined out of reset, then the rest of the
system is UNKNOWN. The hardware guys prefer that and it can also be useful
for very low-level debugging (system crashes, do a reset, read out the
state).

Will

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From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
Cc: "olof@lixom.net" <olof@lixom.net>,
	Sonny Rao <sonnyrao@chromium.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <Catalin.Marinas@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <Mark.Rutland@arm.com>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
	Marc Zyngier <Marc.Zyngier@arm.com>,
	Sudeep Holla <Sudeep.Holla@arm.com>,
	Christopher Covington <cov@codeaurora.org>,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <Lorenzo.Pieralisi@arm.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	Nathan Lynch <Nathan_Lynch@mentor.com>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"robh+dt@kernel.org" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Pawel Moll <Pawel.Moll@arm.com>,
	"ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk" <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	"galak@codeaurora.org" <galak@codeaurora.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] clocksource: arch_timer: Allow the device tree to specify the physical timer
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 18:07:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140911170716.GA6158@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD=FV=WECbZ4L=-C+F9K6kfiPUi7ar3a4a7Upq2TqDYYPGoOrA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 05:59:53PM +0100, Doug Anderson wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com> wrote:
> > I'd say `Only supported for ARM' to better match what we've done. Probably
> > also worth mentioning that this relies on the hypervisor/firmware having set
> > CNTHCTL.PL1PCEN and CNTHCTL.EL1PCTEN (but assumedly made a mess of CNTVOFF
> > ;) if you want to boot on the non-secure side (e.g. as a guest).
> 
> Note that the reset value of CNTHCTL.PL1PCEN and CNTHCTL.PL1PCTEN are
> both 1 in my version of the ARM ARM.  On the other hand CNTVOFF is
> documented to have an UNKNOWN reset value.  If only ARM had guaranteed
> that CNTVOFF started out as 0 (which seems like it would have been
> sensible) we wouldn't be in this mess.  :-/

I'm afraid we went the opposite way -- in ARMv8 there are a tiny handful
of EL3 registers that are well-defined out of reset, then the rest of the
system is UNKNOWN. The hardware guys prefer that and it can also be useful
for very low-level debugging (system crashes, do a reset, read out the
state).

Will

  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-11 17:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-11 16:16 [PATCH v2] clocksource: arch_timer: Allow the device tree to specify the physical timer Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 16:16 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 16:47 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-11 16:47   ` Will Deacon
2014-09-11 16:47   ` Will Deacon
2014-09-11 16:59   ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 16:59     ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 16:59     ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 17:07     ` Will Deacon [this message]
2014-09-11 17:07       ` Will Deacon
2014-09-11 17:14       ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 17:14         ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 17:00   ` Marc Zyngier
2014-09-11 17:00     ` Marc Zyngier
2014-09-11 17:11     ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 17:11       ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 17:11       ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 17:22       ` Marc Zyngier
2014-09-11 17:22         ` Marc Zyngier
2014-09-11 17:22         ` Marc Zyngier
2014-09-11 17:29         ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 17:29           ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 17:29           ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 17:43           ` Marc Zyngier
2014-09-11 17:43             ` Marc Zyngier
2014-09-11 17:43             ` Marc Zyngier
2014-09-11 23:55             ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 23:55               ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 23:55               ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 23:56             ` Stephen Boyd
2014-09-11 23:56               ` Stephen Boyd
2014-09-11 23:56               ` Stephen Boyd
2014-09-12  0:01               ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-12  0:01                 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-12  0:01                 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-12 10:20                 ` Marc Zyngier
2014-09-12 10:20                   ` Marc Zyngier
2014-09-12  0:14               ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-12  1:17                 ` Stephen Boyd
2014-09-12  3:25                   ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-12  3:25                     ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-12  3:25                     ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-12 11:43             ` Christopher Covington
2014-09-12 11:43               ` Christopher Covington
2014-09-12 11:43               ` Christopher Covington
2014-09-12 12:14               ` Marc Zyngier
2014-09-12 12:14                 ` Marc Zyngier
2014-09-12 18:59                 ` Stephen Boyd
2014-09-12 18:59                   ` Stephen Boyd
2014-09-12 18:59                   ` Stephen Boyd
2014-09-15 11:10                   ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-15 11:10                     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-15 11:10                     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-15 20:33                     ` Stephen Boyd
2014-09-15 20:33                       ` Stephen Boyd
2014-09-15 21:47                       ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-15 21:47                         ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-15 21:47                         ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-15 21:49                         ` Stephen Boyd
2014-09-15 21:49                           ` Stephen Boyd
2014-09-15 21:49                           ` Stephen Boyd
2014-09-15 21:52                           ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-15 21:52                             ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-15 21:52                             ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-15 22:04                             ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-15 22:04                               ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-15 22:04                               ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-15 22:51                               ` Christopher Covington
2014-09-15 22:51                                 ` Christopher Covington
2014-09-15 22:51                                 ` Christopher Covington
2014-09-16  0:24                                 ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-16  0:24                                   ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-16  0:24                                   ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-16 10:42                                 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-16 10:42                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-16 10:42                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-16 11:22                                   ` Christopher Covington
2014-09-16 11:22                                     ` Christopher Covington
2014-09-16 11:22                                     ` Christopher Covington
2014-09-16 11:03                       ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-16 11:03                         ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-16 11:03                         ` Catalin Marinas

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