From: catalin.marinas@arm.com (Catalin Marinas)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v2] clocksource: arch_timer: Allow the device tree to specify the physical timer
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 12:03:21 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140916110321.GD27273@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54174CFF.7050504@codeaurora.org>
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 09:33:03PM +0100, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> On 09/15/14 04:10, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 07:59:29PM +0100, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> >> On 09/12/14 05:14, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> >>> We surely can handle the UNDEF and do something there. We just can't do
> >>> it the way Doug described it above.
> >> I suggested doing that for something else a while ago and Will and Dave
> >> we're not thrilled[1]. The suggestion back then was to use DT to
> >> indicate what mode the kernel is running in.
> >>
> >> [1]
> >> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2012-June/105321.html
> > I think the context was slightly different. As I re-read the thread, it
> > seems that the discussion was around whether to use some SMC interface
> > or not based on whether the kernel is running secure or non-secure. The
> > argument made by Will was to actually specify the type of the firmware
> > SMC interface in the DT and use it in the kernel (and probably assume
> > the kernel is running in secure mode if no smc interface is specified in
> > the DT; you could have both though, running in secure mode and also
> > having firmware).
> >
> > In this arch timer case, we need to work around a firmware bug (or
> > feature as 32-bit ARM kernels never required CNTVOFF initialisation by
> > firmware, no matter how small such firmware is). We don't expect a
> > specific SMC call to initialise CNTVOFF, so we can't describe it in the
> > DT.
>
> Agreed, we can't described SMC calls that don't exist. From my
> perspective it's just another part of the cpu boot sequence that needs
> to be handled in the kernel, so describing the requirement via the
> cpu-boot method seems appropriate. It seems like we're making it harder
> than it should be by handling the undef when we could have slightly
> different SMP boot code (and suspend/resume code) depending on the boot
> method property.
For 32-bit ARM SoCs, I think you can describe this via some specific
enable-method property. What I don't like though is the multitude of
enable methods (trying to reduce them on arm64) and the fact that
registers like CNTVOFF are rather architecture than SoC specific.
--
Catalin
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] clocksource: arch_timer: Allow the device tree to specify the physical timer
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 12:03:21 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140916110321.GD27273@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54174CFF.7050504-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 09:33:03PM +0100, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> On 09/15/14 04:10, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 07:59:29PM +0100, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> >> On 09/12/14 05:14, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> >>> We surely can handle the UNDEF and do something there. We just can't do
> >>> it the way Doug described it above.
> >> I suggested doing that for something else a while ago and Will and Dave
> >> we're not thrilled[1]. The suggestion back then was to use DT to
> >> indicate what mode the kernel is running in.
> >>
> >> [1]
> >> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2012-June/105321.html
> > I think the context was slightly different. As I re-read the thread, it
> > seems that the discussion was around whether to use some SMC interface
> > or not based on whether the kernel is running secure or non-secure. The
> > argument made by Will was to actually specify the type of the firmware
> > SMC interface in the DT and use it in the kernel (and probably assume
> > the kernel is running in secure mode if no smc interface is specified in
> > the DT; you could have both though, running in secure mode and also
> > having firmware).
> >
> > In this arch timer case, we need to work around a firmware bug (or
> > feature as 32-bit ARM kernels never required CNTVOFF initialisation by
> > firmware, no matter how small such firmware is). We don't expect a
> > specific SMC call to initialise CNTVOFF, so we can't describe it in the
> > DT.
>
> Agreed, we can't described SMC calls that don't exist. From my
> perspective it's just another part of the cpu boot sequence that needs
> to be handled in the kernel, so describing the requirement via the
> cpu-boot method seems appropriate. It seems like we're making it harder
> than it should be by handling the undef when we could have slightly
> different SMP boot code (and suspend/resume code) depending on the boot
> method property.
For 32-bit ARM SoCs, I think you can describe this via some specific
enable-method property. What I don't like though is the multitude of
enable methods (trying to reduce them on arm64) and the fact that
registers like CNTVOFF are rather architecture than SoC specific.
--
Catalin
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From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>
Cc: Marc Zyngier <Marc.Zyngier@arm.com>,
Christopher Covington <cov@codeaurora.org>,
Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>,
Will Deacon <Will.Deacon@arm.com>,
"olof@lixom.net" <olof@lixom.net>,
Sonny Rao <sonnyrao@chromium.org>,
Mark Rutland <Mark.Rutland@arm.com>,
Sudeep Holla <Sudeep.Holla@arm.com>,
Lorenzo Pieralisi <Lorenzo.Pieralisi@arm.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
Nathan Lynch <Nathan_Lynch@mentor.com>,
"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
"robh+dt@kernel.org" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
Pawel Moll <Pawel.Moll@arm.com>,
"ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk" <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
"galak@codeaurora.org" <galak@codeaurora.org>,
"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] clocksource: arch_timer: Allow the device tree to specify the physical timer
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 12:03:21 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140916110321.GD27273@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54174CFF.7050504@codeaurora.org>
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 09:33:03PM +0100, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> On 09/15/14 04:10, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 07:59:29PM +0100, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> >> On 09/12/14 05:14, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> >>> We surely can handle the UNDEF and do something there. We just can't do
> >>> it the way Doug described it above.
> >> I suggested doing that for something else a while ago and Will and Dave
> >> we're not thrilled[1]. The suggestion back then was to use DT to
> >> indicate what mode the kernel is running in.
> >>
> >> [1]
> >> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2012-June/105321.html
> > I think the context was slightly different. As I re-read the thread, it
> > seems that the discussion was around whether to use some SMC interface
> > or not based on whether the kernel is running secure or non-secure. The
> > argument made by Will was to actually specify the type of the firmware
> > SMC interface in the DT and use it in the kernel (and probably assume
> > the kernel is running in secure mode if no smc interface is specified in
> > the DT; you could have both though, running in secure mode and also
> > having firmware).
> >
> > In this arch timer case, we need to work around a firmware bug (or
> > feature as 32-bit ARM kernels never required CNTVOFF initialisation by
> > firmware, no matter how small such firmware is). We don't expect a
> > specific SMC call to initialise CNTVOFF, so we can't describe it in the
> > DT.
>
> Agreed, we can't described SMC calls that don't exist. From my
> perspective it's just another part of the cpu boot sequence that needs
> to be handled in the kernel, so describing the requirement via the
> cpu-boot method seems appropriate. It seems like we're making it harder
> than it should be by handling the undef when we could have slightly
> different SMP boot code (and suspend/resume code) depending on the boot
> method property.
For 32-bit ARM SoCs, I think you can describe this via some specific
enable-method property. What I don't like though is the multitude of
enable methods (trying to reduce them on arm64) and the fact that
registers like CNTVOFF are rather architecture than SoC specific.
--
Catalin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-09-16 11:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-09-11 16:16 [PATCH v2] clocksource: arch_timer: Allow the device tree to specify the physical timer Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 16:16 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 16:47 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-11 16:47 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-11 16:47 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-11 16:59 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 16:59 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 16:59 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 17:07 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-11 17:07 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-11 17:14 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 17:14 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 17:00 ` Marc Zyngier
2014-09-11 17:00 ` Marc Zyngier
2014-09-11 17:11 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 17:11 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 17:11 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 17:22 ` Marc Zyngier
2014-09-11 17:22 ` Marc Zyngier
2014-09-11 17:22 ` Marc Zyngier
2014-09-11 17:29 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 17:29 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 17:29 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 17:43 ` Marc Zyngier
2014-09-11 17:43 ` Marc Zyngier
2014-09-11 17:43 ` Marc Zyngier
2014-09-11 23:55 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 23:55 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 23:55 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-11 23:56 ` Stephen Boyd
2014-09-11 23:56 ` Stephen Boyd
2014-09-11 23:56 ` Stephen Boyd
2014-09-12 0:01 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-12 0:01 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-12 0:01 ` Doug Anderson
2014-09-12 10:20 ` Marc Zyngier
2014-09-12 10:20 ` Marc Zyngier
2014-09-12 0:14 ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-12 1:17 ` Stephen Boyd
2014-09-12 3:25 ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-12 3:25 ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-12 3:25 ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-12 11:43 ` Christopher Covington
2014-09-12 11:43 ` Christopher Covington
2014-09-12 11:43 ` Christopher Covington
2014-09-12 12:14 ` Marc Zyngier
2014-09-12 12:14 ` Marc Zyngier
2014-09-12 18:59 ` Stephen Boyd
2014-09-12 18:59 ` Stephen Boyd
2014-09-12 18:59 ` Stephen Boyd
2014-09-15 11:10 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-15 11:10 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-15 11:10 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-15 20:33 ` Stephen Boyd
2014-09-15 20:33 ` Stephen Boyd
2014-09-15 21:47 ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-15 21:47 ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-15 21:47 ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-15 21:49 ` Stephen Boyd
2014-09-15 21:49 ` Stephen Boyd
2014-09-15 21:49 ` Stephen Boyd
2014-09-15 21:52 ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-15 21:52 ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-15 21:52 ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-15 22:04 ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-15 22:04 ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-15 22:04 ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-15 22:51 ` Christopher Covington
2014-09-15 22:51 ` Christopher Covington
2014-09-15 22:51 ` Christopher Covington
2014-09-16 0:24 ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-16 0:24 ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-16 0:24 ` Sonny Rao
2014-09-16 10:42 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-16 10:42 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-16 10:42 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-16 11:22 ` Christopher Covington
2014-09-16 11:22 ` Christopher Covington
2014-09-16 11:22 ` Christopher Covington
2014-09-16 11:03 ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2014-09-16 11:03 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-16 11:03 ` Catalin Marinas
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