From: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
Kevin Hilman <khilman@baylibre.com>,
"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux OMAP Mailing List <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
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Subject: Re: PM regression with commit 5de85b9d57ab PM runtime re-init in v4.5-rc1
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 08:37:49 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160203163749.GI19432@atomide.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1602031026460.2041-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
* Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> [160203 07:49]:
> On Tue, 2 Feb 2016, Tony Lindgren wrote:
>
> > * Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> [160202 13:46]:
> > > On Tue, 2 Feb 2016, Tony Lindgren wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Also, what is autosuspend_delay set to for your device? And is
> > > > > runtime_auto set?
> > > >
> > > > It's 100 at that point, see the commented snippet below from
> > > > omap_hsmmc_probe():
> > > >
> > > > pm_runtime_enable(host->dev);
> > > > pm_runtime_get_sync(host->dev);
> > > > pm_runtime_set_autosuspend_delay(host->dev, MMC_AUTOSUSPEND_DELAY);
> > > > /* NOTE: pm_runtime_dont_use_autosuspend(host->dev) needed here? */
> > > > pm_runtime_use_autosuspend(host->dev);
> > > > ...
> > > > /* gets -EPROBE_DEFER */
> > > > err_irq:
> > > > ...
> > > > pm_runtime_put_sync(host->dev);
> > >
> > > You could try changing this to pm_runtime_put_sync_suspend(). But
> > > putting pm_runtime_dont_use_autosuspend() before the put_sync seems
> > > like a perfectly reasonable thing to do, especially if you feel you
> > > should reverse all the changes you made at the start.
> >
> > They both seem to fix the problem.
>
> So you could use either one. In my opinion, the
> pm_runtime_dont_use_autosuspend() solution is a little cleaner.
>
> > > The reinit function gets called too late to do what you want -- namely,
> > > put the hardware in a low-power state.
> >
> > Right, the problem is the lack of suspend on the first probe. But
> > for having autosuspend timeout long enough for the next probe
> > would mean that we can't reset the PM runtime state in between.
>
> That's one way to look at it. But in principle you don't need to
> suspend the device after an unsuccessful probe. You can just leave it
> at high power. If this causes problems for a second probe, it's the
> second probe's own fault for assuming the actual state matches the PM
> status.
Yes. And I can improve the warning for omap_device so the authors
for new drivers can easily fix the issue.
> > > pm_runtime_put_sync() is supposed to follow the driver's wishes. It
> > > invokes the driver's runtime_idle callback if there is one, and the
> > > callback routine can start a suspend or an autosuspend. If there is no
> > > callback, it will use whatever autosuspend setting the driver has set
> > > up. If you want to override the autosuspend setting, use
> > > pm_runtime_put_sync_suspend() instead.
> >
> > Yes.. That works too. I guess the thing to consider is if we should
> > make pm_runtime_put_sync() always sync along the lines of a patch
> > I posted earlier today. That could avoid quite a bit of confusion
> > as already seen in this thread :)
>
> As Rafael pointed out, pm_runtime_put_sync() has well-documented
> behavior. It shouldn't be changed. I don't see how changing the
> behavior would reduce anybody's confusion. At least, anybody who reads
> the documentation carefully.
Right :)
Tony
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: tony@atomide.com (Tony Lindgren)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: PM regression with commit 5de85b9d57ab PM runtime re-init in v4.5-rc1
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 08:37:49 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160203163749.GI19432@atomide.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1602031026460.2041-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
* Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> [160203 07:49]:
> On Tue, 2 Feb 2016, Tony Lindgren wrote:
>
> > * Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> [160202 13:46]:
> > > On Tue, 2 Feb 2016, Tony Lindgren wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Also, what is autosuspend_delay set to for your device? And is
> > > > > runtime_auto set?
> > > >
> > > > It's 100 at that point, see the commented snippet below from
> > > > omap_hsmmc_probe():
> > > >
> > > > pm_runtime_enable(host->dev);
> > > > pm_runtime_get_sync(host->dev);
> > > > pm_runtime_set_autosuspend_delay(host->dev, MMC_AUTOSUSPEND_DELAY);
> > > > /* NOTE: pm_runtime_dont_use_autosuspend(host->dev) needed here? */
> > > > pm_runtime_use_autosuspend(host->dev);
> > > > ...
> > > > /* gets -EPROBE_DEFER */
> > > > err_irq:
> > > > ...
> > > > pm_runtime_put_sync(host->dev);
> > >
> > > You could try changing this to pm_runtime_put_sync_suspend(). But
> > > putting pm_runtime_dont_use_autosuspend() before the put_sync seems
> > > like a perfectly reasonable thing to do, especially if you feel you
> > > should reverse all the changes you made at the start.
> >
> > They both seem to fix the problem.
>
> So you could use either one. In my opinion, the
> pm_runtime_dont_use_autosuspend() solution is a little cleaner.
>
> > > The reinit function gets called too late to do what you want -- namely,
> > > put the hardware in a low-power state.
> >
> > Right, the problem is the lack of suspend on the first probe. But
> > for having autosuspend timeout long enough for the next probe
> > would mean that we can't reset the PM runtime state in between.
>
> That's one way to look at it. But in principle you don't need to
> suspend the device after an unsuccessful probe. You can just leave it
> at high power. If this causes problems for a second probe, it's the
> second probe's own fault for assuming the actual state matches the PM
> status.
Yes. And I can improve the warning for omap_device so the authors
for new drivers can easily fix the issue.
> > > pm_runtime_put_sync() is supposed to follow the driver's wishes. It
> > > invokes the driver's runtime_idle callback if there is one, and the
> > > callback routine can start a suspend or an autosuspend. If there is no
> > > callback, it will use whatever autosuspend setting the driver has set
> > > up. If you want to override the autosuspend setting, use
> > > pm_runtime_put_sync_suspend() instead.
> >
> > Yes.. That works too. I guess the thing to consider is if we should
> > make pm_runtime_put_sync() always sync along the lines of a patch
> > I posted earlier today. That could avoid quite a bit of confusion
> > as already seen in this thread :)
>
> As Rafael pointed out, pm_runtime_put_sync() has well-documented
> behavior. It shouldn't be changed. I don't see how changing the
> behavior would reduce anybody's confusion. At least, anybody who reads
> the documentation carefully.
Right :)
Tony
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-02-03 16:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 148+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-01-26 22:48 PM regression with commit 5de85b9d57ab PM runtime re-init in v4.5-rc1 Tony Lindgren
2016-01-26 22:48 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-01-26 22:50 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-01-26 22:50 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-01-26 23:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-01-26 23:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-01-26 23:22 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-01-26 23:22 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-01-26 23:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-01-26 23:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-01-26 23:52 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-01-26 23:52 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-01-27 7:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-01-27 7:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-01-27 8:17 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-01-27 8:17 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-01-27 15:19 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-01-27 15:19 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-01-27 22:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-01-27 22:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-01-28 14:29 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-01-28 14:29 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-01-28 16:58 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-01-28 16:58 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-01 16:44 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-01 16:44 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-01 18:11 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-01 18:11 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-01 22:06 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-01 22:06 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-01 22:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-01 22:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-01 22:29 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-01 22:29 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-01 23:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-01 23:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-01 23:28 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-01 23:28 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-01 23:44 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-01 23:44 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-01 23:49 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-01 23:49 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-02 3:05 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 3:05 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 10:07 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-02 10:07 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-02 10:42 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-02 10:42 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-02 16:23 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-02 16:23 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-02 16:35 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 16:35 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 20:47 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-02 20:47 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-02 23:41 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 23:41 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 10:23 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-03 10:23 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-03 10:25 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-03 10:25 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-03 12:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-03 12:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-03 14:58 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-03 14:58 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-03 15:45 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-03 15:45 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-03 16:09 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 16:09 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 16:24 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-03 16:24 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-03 17:01 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 17:01 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 17:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-03 17:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-03 16:27 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 16:27 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 18:02 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-03 18:02 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-03 18:28 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 18:28 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 18:37 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-03 18:37 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-03 18:45 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 18:45 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 21:51 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 21:51 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 16:15 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-02 16:15 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-02 16:49 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 16:49 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 18:05 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 18:05 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 18:43 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-02 18:43 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-02 18:54 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 18:54 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 19:16 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-02 19:16 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-02 21:03 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 21:03 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 21:45 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-02 21:45 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-02 23:46 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 23:46 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 13:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-03 13:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-03 16:36 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 16:36 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 15:48 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-03 15:48 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-03 16:37 ` Tony Lindgren [this message]
2016-02-03 16:37 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 17:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-03 17:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-03 17:22 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 17:22 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 17:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-03 17:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-04 10:20 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-04 10:20 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-04 16:04 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-04 16:04 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-04 17:20 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-04 17:20 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-04 21:11 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-04 21:11 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-04 22:09 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-04 22:09 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-04 22:34 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-04 22:34 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-05 1:08 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-05 1:08 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-05 6:54 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-05 6:54 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-05 19:10 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-05 19:10 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 18:47 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 18:47 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 20:24 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-02 20:24 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-02 21:24 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-02 21:24 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-02 21:39 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 21:39 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 13:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-03 13:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-03 16:49 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 16:49 ` Tony Lindgren
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