From: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
Kevin Hilman <khilman@baylibre.com>,
"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux OMAP Mailing List <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: PM regression with commit 5de85b9d57ab PM runtime re-init in v4.5-rc1
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 09:20:25 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160204172025.GQ19432@atomide.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1602041059070.1515-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
* Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> [160204 08:05]:
> On Thu, 4 Feb 2016, Ulf Hansson wrote:
>
> > Just wanted to add yet some new findings while I was looking into this
> > regression.
> >
> > So, the reason why pm_runtime_put_sync() doesn't idle the device in
> > these cases, is because autosuspend is respected and for some reason
> > the autosuspend timer hasn't expired.
>
> No doubt the autosuspend delay is longer than the time it takes for a
> probe to fail.
>
> > I was wondering *why* the timer isn't considered as expired, because
> > the driver don't call pm_runtime_mark_last_busy() in the failing probe
> > case...
> >
> > Then I realized the following commit was merged a few releases ago,
> > which makes the runtime PM core to invoke pm_runtime_mark_last_busy()
> > for us.
> >
> > commit 56f487c78015936097474fd89b2ccb229d500d0f
> > Author: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
> > Date: Wed May 13 16:36:32 2015 -0700
> > PM / Runtime: Update last_busy in rpm_resume
> >
> > So, this commit actually causes the devices to stay active after a
> > failed probe attempt.
> >
> > I think it's a good idea to revert this change, but what to you think?
>
> I disagree. The whole idea of autosuspend is to prevent the device's
> power state from bouncing up and down too rapidly. This implies that
> whenever the device gets resumed, we should wait at least the minimum
> autosuspend delay before allowing the next autosuspend.
Yeah let's not revert 56f487c78015. Without that we have devices
falling right back to sleep.
Regards,
Tony
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: tony@atomide.com (Tony Lindgren)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: PM regression with commit 5de85b9d57ab PM runtime re-init in v4.5-rc1
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 09:20:25 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160204172025.GQ19432@atomide.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1602041059070.1515-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
* Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> [160204 08:05]:
> On Thu, 4 Feb 2016, Ulf Hansson wrote:
>
> > Just wanted to add yet some new findings while I was looking into this
> > regression.
> >
> > So, the reason why pm_runtime_put_sync() doesn't idle the device in
> > these cases, is because autosuspend is respected and for some reason
> > the autosuspend timer hasn't expired.
>
> No doubt the autosuspend delay is longer than the time it takes for a
> probe to fail.
>
> > I was wondering *why* the timer isn't considered as expired, because
> > the driver don't call pm_runtime_mark_last_busy() in the failing probe
> > case...
> >
> > Then I realized the following commit was merged a few releases ago,
> > which makes the runtime PM core to invoke pm_runtime_mark_last_busy()
> > for us.
> >
> > commit 56f487c78015936097474fd89b2ccb229d500d0f
> > Author: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
> > Date: Wed May 13 16:36:32 2015 -0700
> > PM / Runtime: Update last_busy in rpm_resume
> >
> > So, this commit actually causes the devices to stay active after a
> > failed probe attempt.
> >
> > I think it's a good idea to revert this change, but what to you think?
>
> I disagree. The whole idea of autosuspend is to prevent the device's
> power state from bouncing up and down too rapidly. This implies that
> whenever the device gets resumed, we should wait at least the minimum
> autosuspend delay before allowing the next autosuspend.
Yeah let's not revert 56f487c78015. Without that we have devices
falling right back to sleep.
Regards,
Tony
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-02-04 17:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 148+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-01-26 22:48 PM regression with commit 5de85b9d57ab PM runtime re-init in v4.5-rc1 Tony Lindgren
2016-01-26 22:48 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-01-26 22:50 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-01-26 22:50 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-01-26 23:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-01-26 23:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-01-26 23:22 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-01-26 23:22 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-01-26 23:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-01-26 23:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-01-26 23:52 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-01-26 23:52 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-01-27 7:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-01-27 7:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-01-27 8:17 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-01-27 8:17 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-01-27 15:19 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-01-27 15:19 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-01-27 22:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-01-27 22:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-01-28 14:29 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-01-28 14:29 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-01-28 16:58 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-01-28 16:58 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-01 16:44 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-01 16:44 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-01 18:11 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-01 18:11 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-01 22:06 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-01 22:06 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-01 22:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-01 22:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-01 22:29 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-01 22:29 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-01 23:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-01 23:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-01 23:28 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-01 23:28 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-01 23:44 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-01 23:44 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-01 23:49 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-01 23:49 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-02 3:05 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 3:05 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 10:07 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-02 10:07 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-02 10:42 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-02 10:42 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-02 16:23 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-02 16:23 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-02 16:35 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 16:35 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 20:47 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-02 20:47 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-02 23:41 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 23:41 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 10:23 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-03 10:23 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-03 10:25 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-03 10:25 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-03 12:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-03 12:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-03 14:58 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-03 14:58 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-03 15:45 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-03 15:45 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-03 16:09 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 16:09 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 16:24 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-03 16:24 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-03 17:01 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 17:01 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 17:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-03 17:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-03 16:27 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 16:27 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 18:02 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-03 18:02 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-03 18:28 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 18:28 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 18:37 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-03 18:37 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-03 18:45 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 18:45 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 21:51 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 21:51 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 16:15 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-02 16:15 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-02 16:49 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 16:49 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 18:05 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 18:05 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 18:43 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-02 18:43 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-02 18:54 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 18:54 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 19:16 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-02 19:16 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-02 21:03 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 21:03 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 21:45 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-02 21:45 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-02 23:46 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 23:46 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 13:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-03 13:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-03 16:36 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 16:36 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 15:48 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-03 15:48 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-03 16:37 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 16:37 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 17:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-03 17:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-03 17:22 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 17:22 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 17:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-03 17:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-04 10:20 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-04 10:20 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-04 16:04 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-04 16:04 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-04 17:20 ` Tony Lindgren [this message]
2016-02-04 17:20 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-04 21:11 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-04 21:11 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-04 22:09 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-04 22:09 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-04 22:34 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-04 22:34 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-05 1:08 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-05 1:08 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-05 6:54 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-05 6:54 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-05 19:10 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-05 19:10 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 18:47 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 18:47 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 20:24 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-02 20:24 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-02 21:24 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-02 21:24 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-02 21:39 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 21:39 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 13:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-03 13:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-03 16:49 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 16:49 ` Tony Lindgren
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