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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
Cc: "virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	"cohuck@redhat.com" <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	"sgarzare@redhat.com" <sgarzare@redhat.com>,
	"pasic@linux.ibm.com" <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
	"virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@nvidia.com>
Subject: [virtio-comment] Re: [PATCH v12 03/10] content: Rename confusing queue_notify_data and vqn names
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2023 09:25:11 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230410092356-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR12MB5481ACE86E296DF21D942C1DDC909@PH0PR12MB5481.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On Wed, Apr 05, 2023 at 01:20:04PM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
> 
> 
> > From: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 1:22 AM
> > 
> > This is not much of an improvement.
> > 
> > On Wed, Apr 05, 2023 at 04:06:50AM +0300, Parav Pandit wrote:
> > > Currently queue_notify_data register indicates the device internal
> > > queue notification identifier. This register is meaningful only when
> > > feature bit VIRTIO_F_NOTIF_CONFIG_DATA is negotiated.
> > >
> > > However, above register name often get confusing association with very
> > > similar feature bit VIRTIO_F_NOTIFICATION_DATA.
> > >
> > > When VIRTIO_F_NOTIFICATION_DATA feature bit is negotiated,
> > > notification really involves sending additional queue progress related
> > > information (not queue identifier).
> > >
> > > Hence
> > > 1. to avoid any misunderstanding and association of queue_notify_data
> > > with similar name VIRTIO_F_NOTIFICATION_DATA,
> > >
> > > and
> > > 2. to reflect that queue_notify_data is the actual device internal vq
> > > identifier, rename it to queue_notify_id.
> > >
> > > Reflect vq identifier in the driver notification structure by renaming
> > > ambiguous vqn to vq_notify_id.
> > >
> > > The driver notification section assumes that queue notification
> > > contains vq index always. CONFIG_DATA feature bit introduction missed
> > > to update the driver notification section. Hence, correct it.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Some side notes:
> > > renaming vqn to vqnd is even more confusing because data is really the
> > > queue identifier.
> > 
> > Clear to whom?  Why do you think so? Marvell who pushed this feature said
> > they stick some kind of constant value there which matches what their
> > hardware expects. Sounds like a valid way to use this.
> Spec currently has described it as "identifier".

Nope, it gives an identifier as one example of a legal value.


> Snippet:
> "for example an internal virtqueue identifier,
> or an internal offset related to the virtqueue number"
> 
> > So no, not an identifier, and in any case "vq identifier" is a really general and
> > useful term, I would rather not burn it up on a baroque feature that almost no
> > one sets - for almost everyone else this is simply vq index.
> > 
> > If you really insist on renaming this away from "vqn", maybe
> > vq_index_config_data will do, and we can add a comment /* Either vq index or
> > vq config data, previously named vqn */
> > 
> Vq_index_config_data also aligns with the crazy feature bit name.
> So I will use that.

:)

It's just standard thing you get if you overload fields. And this
is data path we could not just add fields easily.

-- 
MST


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WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
Cc: "virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	"cohuck@redhat.com" <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	"sgarzare@redhat.com" <sgarzare@redhat.com>,
	"pasic@linux.ibm.com" <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
	"virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@nvidia.com>
Subject: [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH v12 03/10] content: Rename confusing queue_notify_data and vqn names
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2023 09:25:11 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230410092356-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR12MB5481ACE86E296DF21D942C1DDC909@PH0PR12MB5481.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On Wed, Apr 05, 2023 at 01:20:04PM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
> 
> 
> > From: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 1:22 AM
> > 
> > This is not much of an improvement.
> > 
> > On Wed, Apr 05, 2023 at 04:06:50AM +0300, Parav Pandit wrote:
> > > Currently queue_notify_data register indicates the device internal
> > > queue notification identifier. This register is meaningful only when
> > > feature bit VIRTIO_F_NOTIF_CONFIG_DATA is negotiated.
> > >
> > > However, above register name often get confusing association with very
> > > similar feature bit VIRTIO_F_NOTIFICATION_DATA.
> > >
> > > When VIRTIO_F_NOTIFICATION_DATA feature bit is negotiated,
> > > notification really involves sending additional queue progress related
> > > information (not queue identifier).
> > >
> > > Hence
> > > 1. to avoid any misunderstanding and association of queue_notify_data
> > > with similar name VIRTIO_F_NOTIFICATION_DATA,
> > >
> > > and
> > > 2. to reflect that queue_notify_data is the actual device internal vq
> > > identifier, rename it to queue_notify_id.
> > >
> > > Reflect vq identifier in the driver notification structure by renaming
> > > ambiguous vqn to vq_notify_id.
> > >
> > > The driver notification section assumes that queue notification
> > > contains vq index always. CONFIG_DATA feature bit introduction missed
> > > to update the driver notification section. Hence, correct it.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Some side notes:
> > > renaming vqn to vqnd is even more confusing because data is really the
> > > queue identifier.
> > 
> > Clear to whom?  Why do you think so? Marvell who pushed this feature said
> > they stick some kind of constant value there which matches what their
> > hardware expects. Sounds like a valid way to use this.
> Spec currently has described it as "identifier".

Nope, it gives an identifier as one example of a legal value.


> Snippet:
> "for example an internal virtqueue identifier,
> or an internal offset related to the virtqueue number"
> 
> > So no, not an identifier, and in any case "vq identifier" is a really general and
> > useful term, I would rather not burn it up on a baroque feature that almost no
> > one sets - for almost everyone else this is simply vq index.
> > 
> > If you really insist on renaming this away from "vqn", maybe
> > vq_index_config_data will do, and we can add a comment /* Either vq index or
> > vq config data, previously named vqn */
> > 
> Vq_index_config_data also aligns with the crazy feature bit name.
> So I will use that.

:)

It's just standard thing you get if you overload fields. And this
is data path we could not just add fields easily.

-- 
MST


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  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-10 13:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-05  1:06 [virtio-comment] [PATCH v12 00/10] Rename queue number to queue index Parav Pandit
2023-04-05  1:06 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-04-05  1:06 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v12 01/10] content: Add vq index text Parav Pandit
2023-04-05  1:06   ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-04-05  5:26   ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-05  5:26     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-05 13:00     ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-04-05 13:00       ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-04-05  9:18   ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-05  9:18     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-05 13:03     ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-04-05 13:03       ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-04-07 11:30       ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-07 11:30         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-07 15:34         ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-04-07 15:34           ` Parav Pandit
2023-04-07 15:54           ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-07 15:54             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-05  1:06 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v12 02/10] content.tex Replace virtqueue number with index Parav Pandit
2023-04-05  1:06   ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-04-05  9:46   ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2023-04-05  9:46     ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2023-04-05  1:06 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v12 03/10] content: Rename confusing queue_notify_data and vqn names Parav Pandit
2023-04-05  1:06   ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-04-05  5:22   ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-05  5:22     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-05 13:20     ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-04-05 13:20       ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-04-10 13:25       ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2023-04-10 13:25         ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-05  5:30   ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-05  5:30     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-05  9:57     ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2023-04-05  9:57       ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2023-04-05 13:21     ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-04-05 13:21       ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-04-05 15:27       ` [virtio-comment] " Halil Pasic
2023-04-05 15:27         ` Halil Pasic
2023-04-05 15:58         ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-04-05 15:58           ` Parav Pandit
2023-04-07 11:43           ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-07 11:43             ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-11  8:56             ` Cornelia Huck
2023-04-11  8:56               ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2023-04-11 13:35               ` Parav Pandit
2023-04-11 13:35                 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-04-17  3:18                 ` Halil Pasic
2023-04-17  3:18                   ` [virtio-dev] " Halil Pasic
2023-04-17  7:04                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-17  7:04                     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-17  8:47                     ` [virtio-comment] Participation (was: Re: [virtio-comment] RE: [virtio-dev] RE: [PATCH v12 03/10] content: Rename confusing queue_notify_data and vqn names) Cornelia Huck
2023-04-17  8:47                       ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2023-04-17 11:45                       ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-17 11:45                         ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-17 16:13                     ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] RE: [virtio-dev] RE: [PATCH v12 03/10] content: Rename confusing queue_notify_data and vqn names Halil Pasic
2023-04-17 16:13                       ` Halil Pasic
2023-04-07 11:44       ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-07 11:44         ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-05  1:06 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v12 04/10] transport-pci: Avoid first vq index reference Parav Pandit
2023-04-05  1:06   ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-04-05  1:06 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v12 05/10] transport-mmio: Rename QueueNum register Parav Pandit
2023-04-05  1:06   ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-04-05  1:06 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v12 06/10] transport-mmio: Avoid referring to zero based index Parav Pandit
2023-04-05  1:06   ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-04-05  1:06 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v12 07/10] transport-ccw: Rename queue depth/size to other transports Parav Pandit
2023-04-05  1:06   ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-04-05  1:06 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v12 08/10] transport-ccw: Refer to the vq by its index Parav Pandit
2023-04-05  1:06   ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-04-05  1:06 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v12 09/10] virtio-net: Avoid duplicate receive queue example Parav Pandit
2023-04-05  1:06   ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-04-05  1:06 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v12 10/10] virtio-net: Describe RSS using rss rq id Parav Pandit
2023-04-05  1:06   ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-04-05  9:17   ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-05  9:17     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-05 13:02     ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-04-05 13:02       ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-04-07 11:32       ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-07 11:32         ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-05  5:32 ` [virtio-comment] Re: [PATCH v12 00/10] Rename queue number to queue index Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-05  5:32   ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-05 13:11   ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-04-05 13:11     ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-04-05  9:20 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-05  9:20   ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-05 13:05   ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-04-05 13:05     ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit

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