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From: "Peter Wächtler" <pwaechtler@loewe-komp.de>
To: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
Cc: Oliver Xymoron <oxymoron@waste.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Adeos nanokernel for Linux kernel
Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 13:11:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3CFDF1E9.4040601@loewe-komp.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0206041418460.2614-100000@waste.org> <E17FQPj-0001Rr-00@starship>

Daniel Phillips wrote:
> On Tuesday 04 June 2002 21:29, Oliver Xymoron wrote:
> 
>>On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Daniel Phillips wrote:
>>
>>
>>>traditional IT.  Not to mention that I can look forward to a sound
>>>system where I can be *sure* my mp3s won't skip.
>>>
>>Not unless you're loading your entire MP3 into memory, mlocking it down,
>>and handing it off to a hard RT process. And then your control of the
>>playback of said song through a non-RT GUI could be arbitrarily coarse,
>>depending on load.
>>
> 
> Thanks for biting :-)
> 
> First, these days it's no big deal to load an entire mp3 into memory.  
> 
> Second, and of more interest to broadcasting industry professionals and the 
> like, it's possible to write a real-time filesystem that bypasses all the 
> normal non-realtime facilities of the operating system, and where the latency 
> of every operation is bounded according to the amount of data transferred.  
> Such a filesystem could use its own dedicated disk, or, more practically, the 
> RTOS (or realtime subsystem) could operate the disk's block queue.
> 
> If I recall correctly, XFS makes an attempt to provide such realtime 
> guarantees, or at least the Solaris version does.  However, the operating 
> system must be able to provide true realtime guarantees in order for the 
> filesystem to provide them, and I doubt that the combination of XFS and 
> Solaris can do that.
> 
> 

It's XFS with a realtime volume under Irix.
With the React extension Irix is also capable of "hard realtime".
But these days the term realtime is a lot misused - and leeds to
assumption of a better "system".


  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-06-05 11:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-03  8:35 [ANNOUNCE] Adeos nanokernel for Linux kernel Karim Yaghmour
2002-06-03  8:46 ` Erik Andersen
2002-06-03  8:56   ` Alessandro Rubini
2002-06-03  9:14   ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-06-03  9:52     ` Erik Andersen
2002-06-03 10:05       ` Alessandro Rubini
2002-06-03 10:12       ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-06-03 10:33         ` Erik Andersen
2002-06-03 10:38           ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-06-03 11:05         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-03  9:26 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-04 19:29   ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-06-05  2:20     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-05  2:40       ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-06-05  2:57         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-05 13:51           ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-06-05 14:25             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-05 15:37               ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-06-05 17:32                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-05 18:06                   ` Mark Mielke
2002-06-05 18:26                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-05 19:13                       ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-06-05 19:40                         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-05 20:51                           ` Mark Mielke
2002-06-05 21:45                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-05 21:22                           ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-06-05 21:55                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-06  8:52                               ` Peter Wächtler
2002-06-06 10:58                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-06 14:03                                   ` Peter Wächtler
2002-06-06 16:53                                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-05 20:48                         ` Mark Mielke
2002-06-06  8:34                           ` Peter Wächtler
2002-06-08 13:50             ` john slee
2002-06-08 13:59               ` Thunder from the hill
2002-06-06 21:21           ` Pavel Machek
2002-06-07  1:35             ` Mark Mielke
2002-06-07  2:42               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-07  2:48                 ` Mark Mielke
2002-06-07 10:32                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-07 21:35                     ` Pavel Machek
2002-06-05  9:41         ` Ingo Oeser
2002-06-05 18:20           ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-06-05  3:56       ` J Sloan
2002-06-05  4:08         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-05  7:28           ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-05 11:15           ` Peter Wächtler
2002-06-05 12:56             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-05 11:11       ` Peter Wächtler [this message]
2002-06-05 16:55       ` Rob Landley
2002-06-04 16:10 ` Pavel Machek
2002-06-04 19:59   ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-06-04 21:53   ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-06-04 23:06     ` Alan Cox
2002-06-05  4:00   ` Daniel Phillips
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-06-05  9:24 Martin.Knoblauch
2002-06-05 19:01 Paul Zimmerman
2002-06-05 19:11 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-06-05 20:17 ` Daniel Phillips

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