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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-api <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Dave Watson <davejwatson@fb.com>, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Chris Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Ben Maurer <bmaurer@fb.com>, rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>, Michael Kerrisk <mtk.ma>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH for 4.18] rseq: use __u64 for rseq_cs fields, validate user inputs
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 19:00:18 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <415287289.10831.1530572418907.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFxrX+wRoe+5HDaTrRXg1K-Qpks4jJ9Buc_OevoG8hoGFw@mail.gmail.com>

----- On Jul 2, 2018, at 6:45 PM, Linus Torvalds torvalds@linux-foundation.org wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 3:31 PM Mathieu Desnoyers
> <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:
>>
>> Change the rseq ABI so rseq_cs start_ip, post_commit_offset and abort_ip
>> fields are seen as 64-bit fields by both 32-bit and 64-bit kernels rather
>> that ignoring the 32 upper bits on 32-bit kernels. This ensures we have a
>> consistent behavior for a 32-bit binary executed on 32-bit kernels and in
>> compat mode on 64-bit kernels.
> 
> Actually, now that I see this again, I react to:
> 
> 
>> +static int check_rseq_cs_padding(struct task_struct *t)
>> +{
>> +       u32 pad;
>> +       int ret;
>> +
>> +       ret = __get_user(pad, &t->rseq->rseq_cs_padding);
>> +       if (ret)
>> +               return ret;
>> +       if (pad)
>> +               return -EINVAL;
>> +       return 0;
>> +}
> 
> This is all wrong.
> 
> Just make "rseq_cs" be an __u64" too. That will clean up everything,
> and user space will have a much easier time filling it in too, since
> it's just one field. Instead of having to remember about the "let's
> fill in padding for 32-bit cases".
> 
> Then the rseq_get_rseq_cs() will be
> 
>        __u64 rseq_cs;
> 
>        ret = get_user(rseq_cs, &t->rseq->rseq_cs);
>        if (ret)
>                return ret;
>        ptr = (void *)rseq_cs;
>        if (rseq_cs != (unsigned long)ptr)
>                return -EINVAL;
> 
> and it's all good, no #ifdef's etc needed.
> 
> Hmm?

Unfortunately, that rseq->rseq_cs field needs to be updated by user-space
with single-copy atomicity. Therefore, we want 32-bit user-space to initialize
the padding with 0, and only update the low bits with single-copy atomicity.

> 
> Sorry for the bike-shedding, but this is now the last remaining user
> of that LINUX_FIELD_u32_u64, so let's just get rid of it entirely, ok?
>
> Then we can also get rid of that silly uapi/linux/types_32_64.h header
> file entirely.
> 
> That would be *lovely*. Simpler code, simpler and less error-prone
> interfaces, and one less specialized header file.

We can easily switch from LINUX_FIELD_u32_u64 to __u64 for fields within
struct rseq_cs because we have no requirement on update single-copy
atomicity. However, this is not true for the rseq->rseq_cs pointer.

Thoughts ?

Thanks,

Mathieu

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-api <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Dave Watson <davejwatson@fb.com>, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Chris Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Ben Maurer <bmaurer@fb.com>, rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH for 4.18] rseq: use __u64 for rseq_cs fields, validate user inputs
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 19:00:18 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <415287289.10831.1530572418907.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFxrX+wRoe+5HDaTrRXg1K-Qpks4jJ9Buc_OevoG8hoGFw@mail.gmail.com>

----- On Jul 2, 2018, at 6:45 PM, Linus Torvalds torvalds@linux-foundation.org wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 3:31 PM Mathieu Desnoyers
> <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:
>>
>> Change the rseq ABI so rseq_cs start_ip, post_commit_offset and abort_ip
>> fields are seen as 64-bit fields by both 32-bit and 64-bit kernels rather
>> that ignoring the 32 upper bits on 32-bit kernels. This ensures we have a
>> consistent behavior for a 32-bit binary executed on 32-bit kernels and in
>> compat mode on 64-bit kernels.
> 
> Actually, now that I see this again, I react to:
> 
> 
>> +static int check_rseq_cs_padding(struct task_struct *t)
>> +{
>> +       u32 pad;
>> +       int ret;
>> +
>> +       ret = __get_user(pad, &t->rseq->rseq_cs_padding);
>> +       if (ret)
>> +               return ret;
>> +       if (pad)
>> +               return -EINVAL;
>> +       return 0;
>> +}
> 
> This is all wrong.
> 
> Just make "rseq_cs" be an __u64" too. That will clean up everything,
> and user space will have a much easier time filling it in too, since
> it's just one field. Instead of having to remember about the "let's
> fill in padding for 32-bit cases".
> 
> Then the rseq_get_rseq_cs() will be
> 
>        __u64 rseq_cs;
> 
>        ret = get_user(rseq_cs, &t->rseq->rseq_cs);
>        if (ret)
>                return ret;
>        ptr = (void *)rseq_cs;
>        if (rseq_cs != (unsigned long)ptr)
>                return -EINVAL;
> 
> and it's all good, no #ifdef's etc needed.
> 
> Hmm?

Unfortunately, that rseq->rseq_cs field needs to be updated by user-space
with single-copy atomicity. Therefore, we want 32-bit user-space to initialize
the padding with 0, and only update the low bits with single-copy atomicity.

> 
> Sorry for the bike-shedding, but this is now the last remaining user
> of that LINUX_FIELD_u32_u64, so let's just get rid of it entirely, ok?
>
> Then we can also get rid of that silly uapi/linux/types_32_64.h header
> file entirely.
> 
> That would be *lovely*. Simpler code, simpler and less error-prone
> interfaces, and one less specialized header file.

We can easily switch from LINUX_FIELD_u32_u64 to __u64 for fields within
struct rseq_cs because we have no requirement on update single-copy
atomicity. However, this is not true for the rseq->rseq_cs pointer.

Thoughts ?

Thanks,

Mathieu

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-02 23:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-02 22:31 [RFC PATCH for 4.18] rseq: use __u64 for rseq_cs fields, validate user inputs Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-02 22:31 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-02 22:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-02 22:45   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-02 23:00   ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2018-07-02 23:00     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-02 23:06     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-02 23:06       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-02 23:16       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-02 23:16         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-02 23:22         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-02 23:22           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-02 23:25           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-02 23:25             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-02 23:22         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-02 23:22           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-02 23:37           ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-07-02 23:37             ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-07-03  1:19             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03  1:19               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03  2:01               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03  2:01                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03  2:18                 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-03  2:18                   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-03  2:30                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03  2:30                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03  2:33                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-07-03  2:33                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-07-03  2:44                     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-03  2:44                       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-03  8:14                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03  8:14                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03  8:29                       ` Heiko Carstens
2018-07-03  8:29                         ` Heiko Carstens
2018-07-03  8:43                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03  8:43                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03  8:55                           ` Heiko Carstens
2018-07-03  8:55                             ` Heiko Carstens
2018-07-03  9:17                             ` Heiko Carstens
2018-07-03  9:17                               ` Heiko Carstens
2018-07-03  9:24                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03  9:24                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03  9:21                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03  9:21                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 16:40                               ` Andi Kleen
2018-07-03 16:40                                 ` Andi Kleen
2018-07-03 17:02                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 17:02                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 17:06                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-07-03 17:06                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-07-03 17:10                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-03 17:10                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-03 17:26                                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 17:26                                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 17:34                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 17:34                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 17:38                                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 17:38                                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 17:48                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 17:48                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 17:58                                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 17:58                                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 18:11                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 18:11                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 18:15                                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 18:15                                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 18:28                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 18:28                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 18:41                                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 18:41                                                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 19:08                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 19:08                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 17:59                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-03 17:59                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-03 18:09                                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 18:09                                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 18:10                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 18:10                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03  0:19         ` Christopher Lameter
2018-07-03  0:19           ` Christopher Lameter
2018-07-03  0:23           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03  0:23             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03  0:35             ` Christopher Lameter
2018-07-03  0:35               ` Christopher Lameter
2018-07-03  1:17               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03  1:17                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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