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From: Pablo Neira <pablo@eurodev.net>
To: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Cc: Netfilter Development Mailinglist
	<netfilter-devel@lists.netfilter.org>,
	Jozsef Kadlecsik <kadlec@blackhole.kfki.hu>
Subject: Re: [RFC] alternative to conntrack ID
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 04:41:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42AF953D.3030308@eurodev.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0506140433070.4718@kaber.coreworks.de>

Patrick McHardy wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2005, Pablo Neira wrote:
> 
>>> At dumping we could use the flip-bit solution: entries which are already
>>> dumped were marked with the next value of the bit. Of course user 
>>> requests
>>> for dumping must be serialized, but conntrack replication could benefit
>>> from such schema, because new entries could be added to the conntrack
>>> table and replicated during full conntrack table replication as well.
>>
>>
>> Could you elaborate this idea about the flip-bit solution, please? 
>> looks interesting.
> 
> 
> You only allow one process to dump the table at a time, In each
> conntrack entry you flip a bit when dumping it. When continuing
> you continue with the next entry that has the bit unflipped.
> This way you don't need an ID at all. You need a timeout to make
> sure a hung process isn't blocking dumps forever. A malicious
> acting process could probably still block others for a long time,
> but dumping the conntrack table should only be possible with
> root priviliges anyway. When a dump is interrupted the state of
> the bits is inconsistent, in this case you need to reset all of
> them to a known state.

This would complicate the logic. Moreover, a top-like processing dumping 
the conntrack table every x seconds could be such "evil" process. I'm 
going to stuck on the idea of using a u64 id. It's the simpler solution 
at the moment.

--
Pablo

  reply	other threads:[~2005-06-15  2:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-27 23:55 [RFC] [PATCH] ctnetlink updates Pablo Neira
2005-04-01  6:59 ` Harald Welte
2005-04-03 18:01 ` Patrick McHardy
2005-04-06 18:08   ` Pablo Neira
2005-04-17 15:07     ` Patrick McHardy
2005-04-29  7:14       ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2005-04-29  8:02         ` Harald Welte
2005-05-04  9:18           ` [RFC] alternative to conntrack ID Amin Azez
2005-05-04  9:32             ` Patrick Schaaf
2005-05-04 11:30             ` Patrick McHardy
2005-05-04 12:01               ` Amin Azez
2005-05-06 15:16                 ` Patrick McHardy
2005-05-07 20:36                   ` Marcus Sundberg
2005-05-07 22:18                     ` Patrick McHardy
2005-05-07 22:32                       ` Marcus Sundberg
2005-05-09 14:17                         ` KOVACS Krisztian
2005-05-09 15:08                           ` Amin Azez
2005-05-10  6:49                             ` Harald Welte
2005-05-17 16:12                           ` Amin Azez
2005-05-17 20:17                             ` Patrick McHardy
2005-05-18  7:24                               ` Amin Azez
2005-05-18  9:30                               ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2005-06-04 23:52                                 ` Pablo Neira
2005-06-05  1:02                                   ` Pablo Neira
2005-06-06  8:48                                     ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2005-06-09 12:52                                       ` Pablo Neira
2005-06-09 13:00                                         ` Pablo Neira
2005-06-09 13:34                                           ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2005-06-10 10:21                                             ` Pablo Neira
2005-06-13  7:41                                               ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2005-06-14  2:30                                                 ` Pablo Neira
2005-06-14  2:42                                                   ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-15  2:41                                                     ` Pablo Neira [this message]
2005-06-20 16:04                                                     ` Amin Azez
2005-06-20 16:12                                                       ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-22  9:09                                                         ` Amin Azez
2005-06-22  9:30                                                           ` Oscar Mechanic
2005-06-22 17:23                                                           ` Patrick McHardy
2005-07-11  5:41                                                             ` Harald Welte
2005-07-11  7:47                                                               ` Patrick McHardy
2005-07-11  9:50                                                                 ` Pablo Neira
2005-06-06  8:17                                   ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2005-05-18  6:45                             ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2005-05-18  7:08                               ` Amin Azez
2005-05-18  7:17                                 ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2005-05-11  8:43                         ` Amin Azez
2005-05-01 23:49         ` [RFC] [PATCH] ctnetlink updates Pablo Neira
2005-05-02 10:47           ` Harald Welte

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