From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: ak@suse.de, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2.6.13] lockless pagecache 2/7
Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 07:47:48 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4318C884.3050607@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050902.143149.08652495.davem@davemloft.net>
David S. Miller wrote:
> From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
> Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 07:22:18 +1000
>
>
>>This atomic_cmpxchg, unlike a "regular" cmpxchg, has the advantage
>>that the memory altered should always be going through the atomic_
>>accessors, and thus should be implementable with spinlocks.
>>
>>See for example, arch/sparc/lib/atomic32.c
>>
>>At least, that's what I'm hoping for.
>
>
> Ok, as long as the rule is that all accesses have to go
> through accessor macros, it would work. This is not true
> for existing uses of cmpxchg() btw, userland accesses shared
> locks with the kernel would using any kind of accessors we
> can control.
>
> This means that your atomic_cmpxchg() cannot be used for locking
> objects shared with userland, as DRM wants, since the hashed spinlock
> trick does not work in such a case.
>
So neither could currently supported atomic_t ops be shared with
userland accesses?
Then I think it would not be breaking any interface rule to do an
atomic_t atomic_cmpxchg either. Definitely for my usage it will
not be shared with userland.
Thanks,
Nick
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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: ak@suse.de, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2.6.13] lockless pagecache 2/7
Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 07:47:48 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4318C884.3050607@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050902.143149.08652495.davem@davemloft.net>
David S. Miller wrote:
> From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
> Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 07:22:18 +1000
>
>
>>This atomic_cmpxchg, unlike a "regular" cmpxchg, has the advantage
>>that the memory altered should always be going through the atomic_
>>accessors, and thus should be implementable with spinlocks.
>>
>>See for example, arch/sparc/lib/atomic32.c
>>
>>At least, that's what I'm hoping for.
>
>
> Ok, as long as the rule is that all accesses have to go
> through accessor macros, it would work. This is not true
> for existing uses of cmpxchg() btw, userland accesses shared
> locks with the kernel would using any kind of accessors we
> can control.
>
> This means that your atomic_cmpxchg() cannot be used for locking
> objects shared with userland, as DRM wants, since the hashed spinlock
> trick does not work in such a case.
>
So neither could currently supported atomic_t ops be shared with
userland accesses?
Then I think it would not be breaking any interface rule to do an
atomic_t atomic_cmpxchg either. Definitely for my usage it will
not be shared with userland.
Thanks,
Nick
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-09-02 21:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-09-02 6:25 New lockless pagecache Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 6:25 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 6:28 ` [PATCH 2.6.13] lockless pagecache 1/7 Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 6:29 ` [PATCH 2.6.13] lockless pagecache 2/7 Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 6:30 ` [PATCH 2.6.13] lockless pagecache 3/7 Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 6:30 ` [PATCH 2.6.13] lockless pagecache 4/7 Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 6:31 ` [PATCH 2.6.13] lockless pagecache 5/7 Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 6:32 ` [PATCH 2.6.13] lockless pagecache 6/7 Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 6:32 ` [PATCH 2.6.13] lockless pagecache 7/7 Nick Piggin
2005-09-09 13:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-09-09 13:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-09-09 15:23 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-09 15:23 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-09 5:36 ` [PATCH 2.6.13] lockless pagecache 5/7 Christoph Lameter
2005-09-09 5:36 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-09-09 6:22 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-09 6:22 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 13:08 ` [PATCH 2.6.13] lockless pagecache 2/7 Alan Cox
2005-09-02 13:08 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-02 20:41 ` Andi Kleen
2005-09-02 20:41 ` Andi Kleen
2005-09-02 21:12 ` David S. Miller
2005-09-02 21:12 ` David S. Miller, Andi Kleen
2005-09-02 21:43 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 21:43 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 21:22 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 21:22 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 21:31 ` David S. Miller
2005-09-02 21:31 ` David S. Miller, Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 21:47 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2005-09-02 21:47 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 21:57 ` David S. Miller
2005-09-02 21:57 ` David S. Miller, Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 23:57 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-02 23:57 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-03 1:40 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-03 1:40 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-03 17:31 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-03 17:31 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-04 1:01 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-04 1:01 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-04 8:20 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-04 8:20 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-06 1:03 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-06 1:03 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 18:26 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-09-02 18:26 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-09-02 21:26 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 21:26 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-03 1:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-09-03 1:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-09-02 6:45 ` New lockless pagecache Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 6:45 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-15 19:50 ` Alok kataria
2005-09-16 3:12 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-16 3:12 ` Nick Piggin
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