From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
Linux Memory Management <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2.6.13] lockless pagecache 2/7
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 11:03:13 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <431CEAD1.9080007@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1125822018.23858.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Alan Cox wrote:
> On Sul, 2005-09-04 at 11:01 +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
>
>>I would be surprised if it was a big loss... but I'm assuming
>>a locked cmpxchg isn't outlandishly expensive. Basically:
>>
>> read_lock_irqsave(cacheline1);
>> atomic_inc_return(cacheline2);
>> read_unlock_irqrestore(cacheline1);
>>
>>Turns into
>>
>> atomic_cmpxchg();
>>
>>I'll do some microbenchmarks and get back to you. I'm quite
>>interested now ;) What sort of AMDs did you have in mind,
>
>
>
> Athlon or higher give very different atomic numbers to P4. If you are
> losing the read_lock/unlock then the atomic_cmpxchg should be faster on
> all I agree.
>
Phew! I'll test them anyway, however.
> One question however - atomic_foo operations are not store barriers so
> you might need mb() and friends for PPC ?
>
Dave's documented that nicely in Documentation/atomic_ops.txt
In general, atomic ops that do not return a value are not barriers,
while operations that do return a value are.
So I think we can define the atomic_cmpxchg as providing a barrier.
Thanks,
Nick
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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
Linux Memory Management <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2.6.13] lockless pagecache 2/7
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 11:03:13 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <431CEAD1.9080007@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1125822018.23858.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Alan Cox wrote:
> On Sul, 2005-09-04 at 11:01 +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
>
>>I would be surprised if it was a big loss... but I'm assuming
>>a locked cmpxchg isn't outlandishly expensive. Basically:
>>
>> read_lock_irqsave(cacheline1);
>> atomic_inc_return(cacheline2);
>> read_unlock_irqrestore(cacheline1);
>>
>>Turns into
>>
>> atomic_cmpxchg();
>>
>>I'll do some microbenchmarks and get back to you. I'm quite
>>interested now ;) What sort of AMDs did you have in mind,
>
>
>
> Athlon or higher give very different atomic numbers to P4. If you are
> losing the read_lock/unlock then the atomic_cmpxchg should be faster on
> all I agree.
>
Phew! I'll test them anyway, however.
> One question however - atomic_foo operations are not store barriers so
> you might need mb() and friends for PPC ?
>
Dave's documented that nicely in Documentation/atomic_ops.txt
In general, atomic ops that do not return a value are not barriers,
while operations that do return a value are.
So I think we can define the atomic_cmpxchg as providing a barrier.
Thanks,
Nick
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-09-06 1:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-09-02 6:25 New lockless pagecache Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 6:25 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 6:28 ` [PATCH 2.6.13] lockless pagecache 1/7 Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 6:29 ` [PATCH 2.6.13] lockless pagecache 2/7 Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 6:30 ` [PATCH 2.6.13] lockless pagecache 3/7 Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 6:30 ` [PATCH 2.6.13] lockless pagecache 4/7 Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 6:31 ` [PATCH 2.6.13] lockless pagecache 5/7 Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 6:32 ` [PATCH 2.6.13] lockless pagecache 6/7 Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 6:32 ` [PATCH 2.6.13] lockless pagecache 7/7 Nick Piggin
2005-09-09 13:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-09-09 13:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-09-09 15:23 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-09 15:23 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-09 5:36 ` [PATCH 2.6.13] lockless pagecache 5/7 Christoph Lameter
2005-09-09 5:36 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-09-09 6:22 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-09 6:22 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 13:08 ` [PATCH 2.6.13] lockless pagecache 2/7 Alan Cox
2005-09-02 13:08 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-02 20:41 ` Andi Kleen
2005-09-02 20:41 ` Andi Kleen
2005-09-02 21:12 ` David S. Miller
2005-09-02 21:12 ` David S. Miller, Andi Kleen
2005-09-02 21:43 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 21:43 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 21:22 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 21:22 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 21:31 ` David S. Miller
2005-09-02 21:31 ` David S. Miller, Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 21:47 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 21:47 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 21:57 ` David S. Miller
2005-09-02 21:57 ` David S. Miller, Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 23:57 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-02 23:57 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-03 1:40 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-03 1:40 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-03 17:31 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-03 17:31 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-04 1:01 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-04 1:01 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-04 8:20 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-04 8:20 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-06 1:03 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2005-09-06 1:03 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 18:26 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-09-02 18:26 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-09-02 21:26 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 21:26 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-03 1:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-09-03 1:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-09-02 6:45 ` New lockless pagecache Nick Piggin
2005-09-02 6:45 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-15 19:50 ` Alok kataria
2005-09-16 3:12 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-16 3:12 ` Nick Piggin
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