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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>
Cc: ak@suse.de, akpm@osdl.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH]: Clean up of __alloc_pages
Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:17:35 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <436F29BF.3010804@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051107014659.14c2631b.pj@sgi.com>

Paul Jackson wrote:
> Nick wrote:

>>>And is the pair of operators:
>>>  task_lock(current), task_unlock(current)
>>>really that much worse than the pair of operators
>>>  ...
>>>  preempt_disable, preempt_enable
> 
> 
> That part still surprises me a little.  Is there enough difference in
> the performance between:
> 
>   1) task_lock, which is a spinlock on current->alloc_lock and
>   2) rcu_read_lock, which is .preempt_count++; barrier()
> 
> to justify a separate slab cache for cpusets and a little more code?
> 
> For all I know (not much) the task_lock might actually be cheaper ;).
> 

But on a preempt kernel the spinlock must disable preempt as well!

Not to mention that a spinlock is an atomic op (though that is getting
cheaper these days) + 2 memory barriers (getting more expensive).

> The semaphore down means doing an atomic_dec_return(), which imposes
> a memory barrier, right?
> 

Yep.

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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>
Cc: ak@suse.de, akpm@osdl.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH]: Clean up of __alloc_pages
Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:17:35 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <436F29BF.3010804@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051107014659.14c2631b.pj@sgi.com>

Paul Jackson wrote:
> Nick wrote:

>>>And is the pair of operators:
>>>  task_lock(current), task_unlock(current)
>>>really that much worse than the pair of operators
>>>  ...
>>>  preempt_disable, preempt_enable
> 
> 
> That part still surprises me a little.  Is there enough difference in
> the performance between:
> 
>   1) task_lock, which is a spinlock on current->alloc_lock and
>   2) rcu_read_lock, which is .preempt_count++; barrier()
> 
> to justify a separate slab cache for cpusets and a little more code?
> 
> For all I know (not much) the task_lock might actually be cheaper ;).
> 

But on a preempt kernel the spinlock must disable preempt as well!

Not to mention that a spinlock is an atomic op (though that is getting
cheaper these days) + 2 memory barriers (getting more expensive).

> The semaphore down means doing an atomic_dec_return(), which imposes
> a memory barrier, right?
> 

Yep.

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  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-07 10:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-29  1:33 [PATCH]: Clean up of __alloc_pages Rohit, Seth
2005-10-29  1:33 ` Rohit, Seth
2005-10-29  2:33 ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-29  2:33   ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-31 20:55   ` Rohit Seth
2005-10-31 20:55     ` Rohit Seth
2005-11-01  1:14     ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-01  1:14       ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-04 18:15       ` Rohit Seth
2005-11-04 18:15         ` Rohit Seth
2005-11-05  0:00         ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-05  0:00           ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-30  0:16 ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-30  0:16   ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-31 19:09   ` Rohit Seth
2005-10-31 19:09     ` Rohit Seth
2005-11-05 17:09   ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-05 17:09     ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-06  4:18     ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-06  4:18       ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-06 17:35       ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-06 17:35         ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-06 20:49         ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-06 20:49           ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-07  2:57           ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-07  2:57             ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-07  3:42             ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-07  3:42               ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-07  4:37               ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-07  4:37                 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-07  6:08                 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-07  6:08                   ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-07  9:46                   ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-07  9:46                     ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-07 10:17                     ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2005-11-07 10:17                       ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-07 14:41                       ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-07 14:41                         ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-07  3:44             ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-07  3:44               ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-30  1:47 ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-30  1:47   ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-30  2:01   ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-30  2:01     ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-30  2:19     ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-30  2:19       ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-30  2:32       ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-30  2:32         ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-30  3:06         ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-30  3:06           ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-30  3:53           ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-30  3:53             ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-30  2:26     ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-30  2:26       ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-30  2:36       ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-30  2:36         ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-30  3:09         ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-30  3:09           ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-30  3:55           ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-30  3:55             ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-30  4:11             ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-30  4:11               ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-31 21:20   ` Rohit Seth
2005-10-31 21:20     ` Rohit Seth
2005-10-31 21:28     ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-31 21:28       ` Paul Jackson
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-11-05  1:57 Seth, Rohit
2005-11-05  1:57 ` Seth, Rohit
2005-10-01 19:00 Seth, Rohit
2005-10-01 19:00 ` Seth, Rohit
2005-10-02  3:09 ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-02  3:09   ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-03 16:50   ` Rohit Seth
2005-10-03 16:50     ` Rohit Seth
2005-10-03 15:34 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-10-03 15:34   ` Christoph Lameter
2005-10-03 16:55   ` Rohit Seth
2005-10-03 16:55     ` Rohit Seth
2005-10-03 16:57     ` Christoph Lameter
2005-10-03 16:57       ` Christoph Lameter
2005-10-03 17:48       ` Rohit Seth
2005-10-03 17:48         ` Rohit Seth
2005-10-04 13:27         ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-04 13:27           ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-04 16:26           ` Ray Bryant
2005-10-04 16:26             ` Ray Bryant
2005-10-04 16:10             ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-10-04 16:10               ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-10-04 17:02               ` Ray Bryant
2005-10-04 17:02                 ` Ray Bryant

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