From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>, Mark Lord <liml@rtr.ca>,
"zhao, forrest" <forrest.zhao@intel.com>,
Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>,
linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Re: 2.6.17-rc5-git1: regression: resume from suspend(RAM) fails: libata issue
Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 17:50:39 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4478C9AF.30405@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0605271426030.5623@g5.osdl.org>
Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> On Sat, 27 May 2006, Jens Axboe wrote:
>> @@ -4846,6 +4847,7 @@ int ata_pci_device_suspend(struct pci_de
>>
>> int ata_pci_device_resume(struct pci_dev *pdev)
>> {
>> + msleep(500);
>> pci_set_power_state(pdev, PCI_D0);
>
> That's just insane. Why would we need a delay before going to D0?
> Especially a long one like half a second?
>
> There's something else going on here, and that delay must be just hiding
> the real issue.
It is. But I thought you wanted something that works? :)
Your patch + Jens' patch [with the delay MOVED to the end] would get my
ACK for 2.6.17, and we already have infrastructure queued for 2.6.18 to
do a better job of kicking the controller and bus.
> Looking at ata_device_resume(), I think the whole thing is pretty broken.
>
> Just as an example, it calls "ata_set_mode()", but that sounds pretty damn
> broken, and it should probably do
>
> if (ap->ops->set_mode)
> ap->ops->set_mode(ap);
> else
> ata_set_mode(ap);
Correct.
Furthermore, we probably need to issue IDLE IMMEDIATE command ("wake
up") before SET FEATURES - XFER MODE.
> like ata_bus_probe() does. Similarly, why shouldn't it do the
> probe_reset/phy_reset that is also done in ata_bus_probe()? If it was
It should, most definitely. Otherwise we skip initializing the
controller and phy (a key objection of mine all along).
> required in ata_bus_probe(), it sounds like it would damn well be required
> at resume time too - from a hw perspective, there should really be _no_
> difference between the initial bootup, and a resume event. The hardware is
> in the same state.
Correct, correct, correct :)
> (From a _software_ perspective, it's different, of course - one does
> discovery, while the other might instead try to see if the state _matches_
> what it already knows. But the point is that coming back from power-off
> after a resume should really not be any different than coming back from
> power-off after a bootup)
Key difference: we have no BIOS to give us sane hardware state, so the
controller is in a different state from bootup.
Lacking controller init (you mention this above), we basically have raw
silicon defaults.
We are really debugging from scratch here, and there's a lot of work to do.
Just apply the delay patch for 2.6.17, Mr. Get-It-Working ;-) Else dive
into the big can of worms and give us time to fix it right...
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-05-27 21:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-05-26 9:04 [PATCH] Add ata_piix's own resume function zhao, forrest
2006-05-26 23:05 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-26 23:28 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-26 23:38 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-26 23:50 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-27 6:21 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-27 6:31 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-27 6:46 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-27 6:52 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-27 3:22 ` 2.6.17-rc5-git1: regression: resume from suspend(RAM) fails: libata issue Mark Lord
2006-05-27 3:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-27 3:41 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-27 4:00 ` [PATCH] " Jeff Garzik
2006-05-27 18:23 ` Mark Lord
2006-05-27 18:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-27 19:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-27 19:06 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-27 19:01 ` Mark Lord
2006-05-27 20:45 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-27 20:58 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-27 21:11 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-27 21:17 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-27 21:20 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-27 21:23 ` Mark Lord
2006-05-27 21:25 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-27 21:30 ` Mark Lord
2006-05-27 21:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-27 21:26 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-27 21:31 ` Mark Lord
2006-05-27 21:32 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-27 21:33 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-27 21:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-27 21:37 ` Mark Lord
2006-05-27 21:51 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-27 21:41 ` Tejun Heo
2006-05-27 21:45 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-27 21:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-27 21:50 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2006-05-27 21:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-27 22:11 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-27 21:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-27 21:53 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-27 22:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-27 22:06 ` Mark Lord
2006-05-27 22:11 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-27 22:13 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-27 22:15 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-27 22:15 ` Mark Lord
2006-05-27 22:17 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-27 22:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-27 22:29 ` Mark Lord
2006-05-27 22:36 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-27 22:48 ` Mark Lord
2006-05-27 22:53 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-27 22:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-27 23:10 ` Mark Lord
2006-05-28 0:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-28 0:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-28 0:56 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-28 0:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-28 0:51 ` Mark Lord
2006-05-28 0:53 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-28 0:56 ` Mark Lord
2006-05-28 1:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-28 1:03 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-28 1:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-28 15:28 ` [PATCH] 2.6.17-rc5: the latest consensus libata resume fix Mark Lord
2006-05-28 17:14 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-28 19:05 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-28 19:18 ` Mark Lord
2006-05-28 20:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-28 20:27 ` Mark Lord
2006-05-28 22:28 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-29 1:28 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-29 2:53 ` Mark Lord
2006-05-29 3:18 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-29 3:28 ` zhao, forrest
2006-05-29 2:43 ` Mark Lord
2006-05-27 22:35 ` [PATCH] Re: 2.6.17-rc5-git1: regression: resume from suspend(RAM) fails: libata issue Jens Axboe
2006-05-27 22:52 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-27 22:54 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-27 23:06 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-27 22:56 ` Mark Lord
2006-05-27 23:03 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-27 22:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-27 22:23 ` Mark Lord
2006-05-27 22:43 ` Mark Lord
2006-05-28 0:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-27 18:54 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-27 19:08 ` Mark Lord
2006-05-27 19:15 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-27 19:24 ` Mark Lord
2006-05-27 20:24 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-27 6:29 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-27 6:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-27 7:01 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-27 7:06 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-27 18:46 ` Mark Lord
2006-05-27 3:35 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-27 6:20 ` Jens Axboe
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