From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
Haren Myneni <hbabu@us.ibm.com>,
Simon Horman <horms@verge.net.au>,
Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] kvm: disable virtualization on kdump
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:07:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <490487C1.1010707@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1mygre7nk.fsf@frodo.ebiederm.org>
Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> so reboots don't
>> work. It also assigns some memory to the cpu; if the new kernel isn't aware of
>> it,
>>
>
> Not a problem for a kdump kernel, as it lives out of a reserved region
> of memory.
>
But it is a problem for general kexec.
>>> Is it possible to disable vmx mode before we enable interrrupts in the
>>> kdump kernel?
>>>
>>>
>> You need IPIs to disable vmx on smp.
>>
>
> Thank you. Reading your description and taking a quick look at
> the code in hardware disable it does not appear that there is
> anything needed (other than restricting ourselves it running
> uniprocessor in the kdump kernel) that needs to happen.
>
> Certainly it would be nice to have kvm disabled in hardware,
> but if you are proposing using the existing hardware disable
> I must say that the cure looks much worse than the disease.
>
Certainly you don't want to issue IPIs when kdump()ing. It's not
unlikely that the other cpus have interrupts permanently disabled.
(we can use NMI IPIs, but that will likely be messy)
> It looks like the disable function is all of about 20 assembly
> instructions so I would not have a problem if he had a
> little inline function we could call that test to see if
> vmx is enabled and disable it in the case of kexec on panic.
>
> The normal polite shutdown. That just looks like asking for trouble.
>
But what happens when the kdump kernel reboots? If it is uniprocessor,
it will never have a chance to disable vmx on other cpus. Using acpi
reset (now default) works around this on some machines, but not all.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
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From: Avi Kivity <avi-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm-3NddpPZAyC0@public.gmane.org>,
Eduardo Habkost
<ehabkost-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
kvm-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
kexec-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
Haren Myneni <hbabu-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
Simon Horman <horms-/R6kz+dDXgpPR4JQBCEnsQ@public.gmane.org>,
Vivek Goyal <vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] kvm: disable virtualization on kdump
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:07:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <490487C1.1010707@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1mygre7nk.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> so reboots don't
>> work. It also assigns some memory to the cpu; if the new kernel isn't aware of
>> it,
>>
>
> Not a problem for a kdump kernel, as it lives out of a reserved region
> of memory.
>
But it is a problem for general kexec.
>>> Is it possible to disable vmx mode before we enable interrrupts in the
>>> kdump kernel?
>>>
>>>
>> You need IPIs to disable vmx on smp.
>>
>
> Thank you. Reading your description and taking a quick look at
> the code in hardware disable it does not appear that there is
> anything needed (other than restricting ourselves it running
> uniprocessor in the kdump kernel) that needs to happen.
>
> Certainly it would be nice to have kvm disabled in hardware,
> but if you are proposing using the existing hardware disable
> I must say that the cure looks much worse than the disease.
>
Certainly you don't want to issue IPIs when kdump()ing. It's not
unlikely that the other cpus have interrupts permanently disabled.
(we can use NMI IPIs, but that will likely be messy)
> It looks like the disable function is all of about 20 assembly
> instructions so I would not have a problem if he had a
> little inline function we could call that test to see if
> vmx is enabled and disable it in the case of kexec on panic.
>
> The normal polite shutdown. That just looks like asking for trouble.
>
But what happens when the kdump kernel reboots? If it is uniprocessor,
it will never have a chance to disable vmx on other cpus. Using acpi
reset (now default) works around this on some machines, but not all.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-26 15:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-20 15:01 [PATCH 0/2] kvm: disable virtualization on kdump Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-20 15:01 ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-20 15:01 ` [PATCH 1/2] kdump: crash-time CPU halt notifier interface Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-20 15:01 ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-20 15:01 ` [PATCH 2/2] kvm: disable virtualization when halting CPUs on crash Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-20 15:01 ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-22 23:28 ` [PATCH 0/2] kvm: disable virtualization on kdump Simon Horman
2008-10-22 23:28 ` Simon Horman
2008-10-23 19:41 ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-23 19:41 ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-23 22:29 ` Simon Horman
2008-10-23 22:29 ` Simon Horman
2008-10-24 1:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-24 1:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-26 12:49 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-26 12:49 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-26 14:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-26 14:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-26 15:07 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2008-10-26 15:07 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-26 21:39 ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-26 21:39 ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-27 2:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-27 2:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-27 9:13 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-27 9:13 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-27 12:28 ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-27 12:28 ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-27 14:02 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-27 14:02 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-27 17:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-27 17:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-28 19:45 ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-28 19:45 ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-28 20:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-28 20:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-29 9:41 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 9:41 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 14:54 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-29 14:54 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-29 17:03 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 17:03 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-30 1:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-30 1:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-30 7:35 ` Chris Lalancette
2008-10-30 7:35 ` Chris Lalancette
2008-10-30 7:43 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-30 7:43 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-30 7:52 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-30 7:52 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 9:31 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 9:31 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-27 15:05 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-27 15:05 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-27 15:50 ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-27 15:50 ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-27 8:54 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-27 8:54 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-27 13:09 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-10-27 13:09 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-10-27 14:04 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-27 14:04 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 20:10 ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-29 20:10 ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-29 20:29 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 20:29 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 21:05 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-10-29 21:05 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-10-30 0:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-30 0:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-26 21:47 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-26 21:47 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-27 8:59 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-27 8:59 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-27 15:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-27 15:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-27 15:38 ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-27 15:38 ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-26 12:46 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-26 12:46 ` Avi Kivity
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