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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
	Haren Myneni <hbabu@us.ibm.com>,
	Simon Horman <horms@verge.net.au>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] kvm: disable virtualization on kdump
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:54:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m13aif4fk7.fsf@frodo.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49082FD0.3040009@redhat.com> (Avi Kivity's message of "Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:41:36 +0200")

Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com> writes:

> Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>> I think I will get flamed if I try to pull to the core a bunch of code
>>> that always lived in the KVM module.  8)
>>>
>>
>> Why is KVM modular anyway?  That seems like some pretty core cpu
> functionality...
>>
>
> Many reasons.  Developers like the ability to rmmod and modprobe during
> development.  Distros like to keep their non-modular core small.  There is an
> external module distribution that allows users to graft a new kvm on an old
> kernel, which our testers and bleeding edge users like.  Because it's there.

Most of the reason I was wondering is that the cpu hardware probing
largely seems to be a duplicate of what we have in the core for
probing cpu capabilities already, and could likely be made smaller
by building upon the existing codebase.


> svm can writeback into memory at odd times if we don't do this, and the cost is
> small - clear a bit in EFER.  There's no reason to be lazy.

Especially if we can clear that bit unconditionally (when
EFER is present) I'm all for it.

Eric

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From: ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Avi Kivity <avi-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm-3NddpPZAyC0@public.gmane.org>,
	Eduardo Habkost
	<ehabkost-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	kvm-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	kexec-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
	Haren Myneni <hbabu-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Simon Horman <horms-/R6kz+dDXgpPR4JQBCEnsQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] kvm: disable virtualization on kdump
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:54:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m13aif4fk7.fsf@frodo.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49082FD0.3040009-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> (Avi Kivity's message of "Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:41:36 +0200")

Avi Kivity <avi-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> writes:

> Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>> I think I will get flamed if I try to pull to the core a bunch of code
>>> that always lived in the KVM module.  8)
>>>
>>
>> Why is KVM modular anyway?  That seems like some pretty core cpu
> functionality...
>>
>
> Many reasons.  Developers like the ability to rmmod and modprobe during
> development.  Distros like to keep their non-modular core small.  There is an
> external module distribution that allows users to graft a new kvm on an old
> kernel, which our testers and bleeding edge users like.  Because it's there.

Most of the reason I was wondering is that the cpu hardware probing
largely seems to be a duplicate of what we have in the core for
probing cpu capabilities already, and could likely be made smaller
by building upon the existing codebase.


> svm can writeback into memory at odd times if we don't do this, and the cost is
> small - clear a bit in EFER.  There's no reason to be lazy.

Especially if we can clear that bit unconditionally (when
EFER is present) I'm all for it.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-29 15:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-20 15:01 [PATCH 0/2] kvm: disable virtualization on kdump Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-20 15:01 ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-20 15:01 ` [PATCH 1/2] kdump: crash-time CPU halt notifier interface Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-20 15:01   ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-20 15:01 ` [PATCH 2/2] kvm: disable virtualization when halting CPUs on crash Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-20 15:01   ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-22 23:28 ` [PATCH 0/2] kvm: disable virtualization on kdump Simon Horman
2008-10-22 23:28   ` Simon Horman
2008-10-23 19:41   ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-23 19:41     ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-23 22:29     ` Simon Horman
2008-10-23 22:29       ` Simon Horman
2008-10-24  1:00       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-24  1:00         ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-26 12:49         ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-26 12:49           ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-26 14:46           ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-26 14:46             ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-26 15:07             ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-26 15:07               ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-26 21:39               ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-26 21:39                 ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-27  2:08                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-27  2:08                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-27  9:13                   ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-27  9:13                     ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-27 12:28                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-27 12:28                       ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-27 14:02                       ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-27 14:02                         ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-27 17:32                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-27 17:32                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-28 19:45                           ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-28 19:45                             ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-28 20:13                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-28 20:13                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-29  9:41                               ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29  9:41                                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 14:54                                 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2008-10-29 14:54                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-29 17:03                                   ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 17:03                                     ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-30  1:33                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-30  1:33                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-30  7:35                                       ` Chris Lalancette
2008-10-30  7:35                                         ` Chris Lalancette
2008-10-30  7:43                                         ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-30  7:43                                           ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-30  7:52                                       ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-30  7:52                                         ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29  9:31                             ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29  9:31                               ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-27 15:05                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-27 15:05                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-27 15:50                       ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-27 15:50                         ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-27  8:54                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-27  8:54                   ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-27 13:09                   ` Vivek Goyal
2008-10-27 13:09                     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-10-27 14:04                     ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-27 14:04                       ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 20:10                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-29 20:10                       ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-29 20:29                       ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 20:29                         ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 21:05                       ` Vivek Goyal
2008-10-29 21:05                         ` Vivek Goyal
2008-10-30  0:58                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-30  0:58                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-26 21:47               ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-26 21:47                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-27  8:59                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-27  8:59                   ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-27 15:02                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-27 15:02                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-27 15:38                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-27 15:38                       ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-26 12:46     ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-26 12:46       ` Avi Kivity

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