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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
	Haren Myneni <hbabu@us.ibm.com>,
	Simon Horman <horms@verge.net.au>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] kvm: disable virtualization on kdump
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:54:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <490581A9.80108@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081026213927.GF23893@blackpad>

Eduardo Habkost wrote:
>> (we can use NMI IPIs, but that will likely be messy)
>>     
>
> NMI IPIs are already used on x86 native_machine_crash_shutdown(), so
> it wouldn't get more messy that it is currently. We just need to add
> another bit of code to the code that already runs on an NMI handler.
>
>   

That looks like the easiest (and best) way out.

> My question is: is a notifier chain too much complexity for a sensible
> piece of code like that? If so, a compile-time hook on that point
> would be safer,

I think an unconditional vmx disable is wanted here, so kexec can work 
with other hypervisors.

>  but then it wouldn't work when KVM is compiled as a
> out-of-tree module.
>   

The external module can do without.  It's possible to hijack the nmi 
vector, but I don't think that's a good idea.  If someone wants 
kexec+vmx on an older kernel, they can patch that kernel.

>> But what happens when the kdump kernel reboots?  If it is uniprocessor,  
>> it will never have a chance to disable vmx on other cpus.  Using acpi  
>> reset (now default) works around this on some machines, but not all.
>>     
> Good point. My problem was a hang when booting the kdump kernel, but it
> may also cause problems later, when the kdump kernel reboots.
>   

The hang was likely caused by vmx blocking INIT.  Sigh.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


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From: Avi Kivity <avi-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm-3NddpPZAyC0@public.gmane.org>,
	kvm-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	kexec-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
	Haren Myneni <hbabu-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Simon Horman <horms-/R6kz+dDXgpPR4JQBCEnsQ@public.gmane.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman"
	<ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] kvm: disable virtualization on kdump
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:54:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <490581A9.80108@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081026213927.GF23893@blackpad>

Eduardo Habkost wrote:
>> (we can use NMI IPIs, but that will likely be messy)
>>     
>
> NMI IPIs are already used on x86 native_machine_crash_shutdown(), so
> it wouldn't get more messy that it is currently. We just need to add
> another bit of code to the code that already runs on an NMI handler.
>
>   

That looks like the easiest (and best) way out.

> My question is: is a notifier chain too much complexity for a sensible
> piece of code like that? If so, a compile-time hook on that point
> would be safer,

I think an unconditional vmx disable is wanted here, so kexec can work 
with other hypervisors.

>  but then it wouldn't work when KVM is compiled as a
> out-of-tree module.
>   

The external module can do without.  It's possible to hijack the nmi 
vector, but I don't think that's a good idea.  If someone wants 
kexec+vmx on an older kernel, they can patch that kernel.

>> But what happens when the kdump kernel reboots?  If it is uniprocessor,  
>> it will never have a chance to disable vmx on other cpus.  Using acpi  
>> reset (now default) works around this on some machines, but not all.
>>     
> Good point. My problem was a hang when booting the kdump kernel, but it
> may also cause problems later, when the kdump kernel reboots.
>   

The hang was likely caused by vmx blocking INIT.  Sigh.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-10-27  8:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-20 15:01 [PATCH 0/2] kvm: disable virtualization on kdump Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-20 15:01 ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-20 15:01 ` [PATCH 1/2] kdump: crash-time CPU halt notifier interface Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-20 15:01   ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-20 15:01 ` [PATCH 2/2] kvm: disable virtualization when halting CPUs on crash Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-20 15:01   ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-22 23:28 ` [PATCH 0/2] kvm: disable virtualization on kdump Simon Horman
2008-10-22 23:28   ` Simon Horman
2008-10-23 19:41   ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-23 19:41     ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-23 22:29     ` Simon Horman
2008-10-23 22:29       ` Simon Horman
2008-10-24  1:00       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-24  1:00         ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-26 12:49         ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-26 12:49           ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-26 14:46           ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-26 14:46             ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-26 15:07             ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-26 15:07               ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-26 21:39               ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-26 21:39                 ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-27  2:08                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-27  2:08                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-27  9:13                   ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-27  9:13                     ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-27 12:28                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-27 12:28                       ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-27 14:02                       ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-27 14:02                         ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-27 17:32                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-27 17:32                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-28 19:45                           ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-28 19:45                             ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-28 20:13                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-28 20:13                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-29  9:41                               ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29  9:41                                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 14:54                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-29 14:54                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-29 17:03                                   ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 17:03                                     ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-30  1:33                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-30  1:33                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-30  7:35                                       ` Chris Lalancette
2008-10-30  7:35                                         ` Chris Lalancette
2008-10-30  7:43                                         ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-30  7:43                                           ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-30  7:52                                       ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-30  7:52                                         ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29  9:31                             ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29  9:31                               ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-27 15:05                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-27 15:05                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-27 15:50                       ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-27 15:50                         ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-27  8:54                 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2008-10-27  8:54                   ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-27 13:09                   ` Vivek Goyal
2008-10-27 13:09                     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-10-27 14:04                     ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-27 14:04                       ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 20:10                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-29 20:10                       ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-29 20:29                       ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 20:29                         ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 21:05                       ` Vivek Goyal
2008-10-29 21:05                         ` Vivek Goyal
2008-10-30  0:58                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-30  0:58                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-26 21:47               ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-26 21:47                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-27  8:59                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-27  8:59                   ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-27 15:02                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-27 15:02                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-27 15:38                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-27 15:38                       ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-26 12:46     ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-26 12:46       ` Avi Kivity

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