From: Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Alan Jenkins <alan-jenkins-cCz0Lq7MMjm9FHfhHBbuYA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-acpi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Kernel Testers List
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Subject: Re: Bugs on aspire one A150
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 14:52:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <491EC614.4060302@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <61b223ba0811141159k179558d0i60cebf373baa9fb8-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
Alan Jenkins wrote:
> On 11/14/08, Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> Alan Jenkins wrote:
>>> Maxim Levitsky wrote:
>>>> I have just bought an Aspire one A150, XP version,
>>>> as it was the only available here, and installed ubuntu on it.
>>>>
>>>> Bugs I discovered so far:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ** 1 - embedded controler works in polling mode, due to this:
>>>>
>>>> [ 0.708571] ACPI: EC: non-query interrupt received, switching to
>>>> interrupt mode
>>>> [ 1.224043] ACPI: EC: missing confirmations, switch off interrupt
>>>> mode.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maybe this is the reason for the fact that gnome power manager freezes
>>>> when I unplug
>>>> the AC, and freezes often when I try to see battery status.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> (Note: same is seen on my acer aspire 5720)
>>> That sounds like a known issue. It has been resolved by "ACPI: EC: revert
>>> msleep patch". Happily Len submitted it for mainline this week. You will
>>> also find it if you try the acpi-test git tree. We're all hoping 2.6.28
>>> will be much improved in terms of reliable operation of different ECs :).
>>>
>>>> ** 2 - wireless: not to mention the fact that ath5k wasn't installed by
>>>> default in ubuntu...
>>>> wireless more or less works, but kernel log is full of backtraces.
>>> Well, that doesn't tell us much. Did they still happen after upgrading to
>>> 2.6.28-rc3? Can we see them?
>>>
>>>> Was able to connect to my WPA2 access point.
>>>> Sometimes wireless fails completely, especially after suspend to ram.
>>>> Advanced features like monitor/injection work, but when I changed the
>>>> card's
>>>> mac address it stopped working.
>>>> I also noticed that if I then start airodump, then wireless works with
>>>> new mac.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ** 3 - internal mic doesn't work.
>>>> tried model=acer, model=auto.
>>>> Overall it seems that alsa misprograms O/B realteck
>>>> codec.
>>>> I talk about this later.
>>>> Have same issue on my acer 5720
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ** 4 - wireless led doesn't work.
>>>> ath5k devs, can you fix this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ** 5 - coretemp doesn't show cpu temperature,
>>>> I have seen somewhere that atom support same thermal diode as core2
>>>> and only patch to detect it is needed.
>>>> Please include such path in 2.6.28 if exists.
>> Patch for that does exits, but doesn't apply to latest git,
>> I will apply in manually.
>> This should go to .28 I think, this is trivial thing.
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> ** 6 - both card readers are missing from lspci, is this normal?
>>> A similar bug has been reported as a regression:
>>>
>>> <http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11828>
>>>
>>> so one assumes that it worked on the machines with linux pre-installed.
>>> Hopefully without requiring any hacks.
>>>
>>> It seems that for now a workaround may be to pass the option
>>> debug_quirks=1 to the sdhci module...
>>>
>>> <http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=122509648027303&w=2>
>>>
>>> ...or that it may help if you insert an SD card before booting.
>>>
>>> Apparently the reporter also investigated pcie hotplug. Probably the BIOS
>>> doesn't provide the normal support. You can try "modprobe pciehp
>>> pciehp_force=1", maybe it helps the kernel discover the devices. It
>>> worked for something else on my EeePC. But then it will reportedly
>>> disappear the ethernet controller.
>>>
>>> However, at the moment pciehp can cause delays of 10s of seconds during
>>> resume.
>> Got, a SD card, and with help of pciehp it works almost perfectly in both
>> slots.
>> Almost, due to the fact that R/O switch is ignored.
>> (Just as I expected, a s/w switch, couldn't they think more, and include a
>> hardware switch?)
>> On my main acer R/O switch works.
>>
>> However I have to use pciehp_force=1, I understand that probably acpi tables
>> are broken,
>> but could you add a workaround (dmi quirk?)
>>
>> Also, there is a acpiphp driver, which doesn't work here.
>> pciehp is supposed to support so called native mode, don't yet know what it
>> is,
>> but here it still uses acpi.
>
> Matthew Garret tells me the Aspire One should be handled by acpiphp
> patches he posted on the linux acpi mailing list recently.
>
I applied his first patch, and now acpiphp works great
(loads fast, and detects both readers)
Best regards,
Maxim Levitsky
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From: Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky@gmail.com>
To: Alan Jenkins <alan-jenkins@tuffmail.co.uk>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
Kernel Testers List <kernel-testers@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Bugs on aspire one A150
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 14:52:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <491EC614.4060302@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <61b223ba0811141159k179558d0i60cebf373baa9fb8@mail.gmail.com>
Alan Jenkins wrote:
> On 11/14/08, Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Alan Jenkins wrote:
>>> Maxim Levitsky wrote:
>>>> I have just bought an Aspire one A150, XP version,
>>>> as it was the only available here, and installed ubuntu on it.
>>>>
>>>> Bugs I discovered so far:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ** 1 - embedded controler works in polling mode, due to this:
>>>>
>>>> [ 0.708571] ACPI: EC: non-query interrupt received, switching to
>>>> interrupt mode
>>>> [ 1.224043] ACPI: EC: missing confirmations, switch off interrupt
>>>> mode.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maybe this is the reason for the fact that gnome power manager freezes
>>>> when I unplug
>>>> the AC, and freezes often when I try to see battery status.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> (Note: same is seen on my acer aspire 5720)
>>> That sounds like a known issue. It has been resolved by "ACPI: EC: revert
>>> msleep patch". Happily Len submitted it for mainline this week. You will
>>> also find it if you try the acpi-test git tree. We're all hoping 2.6.28
>>> will be much improved in terms of reliable operation of different ECs :).
>>>
>>>> ** 2 - wireless: not to mention the fact that ath5k wasn't installed by
>>>> default in ubuntu...
>>>> wireless more or less works, but kernel log is full of backtraces.
>>> Well, that doesn't tell us much. Did they still happen after upgrading to
>>> 2.6.28-rc3? Can we see them?
>>>
>>>> Was able to connect to my WPA2 access point.
>>>> Sometimes wireless fails completely, especially after suspend to ram.
>>>> Advanced features like monitor/injection work, but when I changed the
>>>> card's
>>>> mac address it stopped working.
>>>> I also noticed that if I then start airodump, then wireless works with
>>>> new mac.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ** 3 - internal mic doesn't work.
>>>> tried model=acer, model=auto.
>>>> Overall it seems that alsa misprograms O/B realteck
>>>> codec.
>>>> I talk about this later.
>>>> Have same issue on my acer 5720
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ** 4 - wireless led doesn't work.
>>>> ath5k devs, can you fix this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ** 5 - coretemp doesn't show cpu temperature,
>>>> I have seen somewhere that atom support same thermal diode as core2
>>>> and only patch to detect it is needed.
>>>> Please include such path in 2.6.28 if exists.
>> Patch for that does exits, but doesn't apply to latest git,
>> I will apply in manually.
>> This should go to .28 I think, this is trivial thing.
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> ** 6 - both card readers are missing from lspci, is this normal?
>>> A similar bug has been reported as a regression:
>>>
>>> <http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11828>
>>>
>>> so one assumes that it worked on the machines with linux pre-installed.
>>> Hopefully without requiring any hacks.
>>>
>>> It seems that for now a workaround may be to pass the option
>>> debug_quirks=1 to the sdhci module...
>>>
>>> <http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=122509648027303&w=2>
>>>
>>> ...or that it may help if you insert an SD card before booting.
>>>
>>> Apparently the reporter also investigated pcie hotplug. Probably the BIOS
>>> doesn't provide the normal support. You can try "modprobe pciehp
>>> pciehp_force=1", maybe it helps the kernel discover the devices. It
>>> worked for something else on my EeePC. But then it will reportedly
>>> disappear the ethernet controller.
>>>
>>> However, at the moment pciehp can cause delays of 10s of seconds during
>>> resume.
>> Got, a SD card, and with help of pciehp it works almost perfectly in both
>> slots.
>> Almost, due to the fact that R/O switch is ignored.
>> (Just as I expected, a s/w switch, couldn't they think more, and include a
>> hardware switch?)
>> On my main acer R/O switch works.
>>
>> However I have to use pciehp_force=1, I understand that probably acpi tables
>> are broken,
>> but could you add a workaround (dmi quirk?)
>>
>> Also, there is a acpiphp driver, which doesn't work here.
>> pciehp is supposed to support so called native mode, don't yet know what it
>> is,
>> but here it still uses acpi.
>
> Matthew Garret tells me the Aspire One should be handled by acpiphp
> patches he posted on the linux acpi mailing list recently.
>
I applied his first patch, and now acpiphp works great
(loads fast, and detects both readers)
Best regards,
Maxim Levitsky
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-15 12:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 185+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-08 3:26 Bugs on aspire one A150 Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-08 3:26 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-08 11:57 ` Alan Jenkins
[not found] ` <491506DB.1070000-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-08 11:57 ` Alan Jenkins
2008-11-08 11:57 ` Alan Jenkins
2008-11-09 0:52 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-09 0:52 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-09 0:52 ` Maxim Levitsky
[not found] ` <49163435.20301-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-09 8:54 ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2008-11-09 8:54 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-11-09 13:31 ` Andreas Mohr
2008-11-09 13:31 ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
2008-11-09 15:13 ` Andreas Mohr
2008-11-09 15:13 ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
[not found] ` <20081109151323.GA18705-p/qQFhXj4MHA4IYVXhSI5GHfThorsUsI@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-09 18:58 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-11-09 18:58 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-11-09 20:09 ` Andreas Mohr
2008-11-09 20:09 ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
[not found] ` <20081109200929.GA29333-p/qQFhXj4MHA4IYVXhSI5GHfThorsUsI@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-12 11:08 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-11-12 11:08 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-11-12 17:07 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-12 17:07 ` [alsa-devel] " Maxim Levitsky
[not found] ` <491B0D38.1050207-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-12 18:05 ` Andreas Mohr
2008-11-12 18:05 ` Andreas Mohr
[not found] ` <20081112180519.GA21919-p/qQFhXj4MHA4IYVXhSI5GHfThorsUsI@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-14 18:05 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-14 18:05 ` Maxim Levitsky
[not found] ` <491DBDEA.9010104-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-22 19:00 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-22 19:00 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-22 19:43 ` Andreas Mohr
2008-11-22 19:43 ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
[not found] ` <492856C2.8000707-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-24 14:35 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-11-24 14:35 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-15 9:21 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-15 9:21 ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 12:03 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 12:03 ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
[not found] ` <20090316120312.GA19299-p/qQFhXj4MHA4IYVXhSI5GHfThorsUsI@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-16 12:09 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 12:09 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 13:30 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 13:30 ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
[not found] ` <20090316133001.GA8437-p/qQFhXj4MHA4IYVXhSI5GHfThorsUsI@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-16 14:18 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 14:18 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 14:31 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 14:31 ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 14:42 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 14:42 ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 14:50 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 14:50 ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
[not found] ` <20090316145036.GA26358-p/qQFhXj4MHA4IYVXhSI5GHfThorsUsI@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-16 15:34 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 15:34 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 16:02 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 16:02 ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 16:06 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 16:06 ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
[not found] ` <s5hwsappi44.wl%tiwai-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-16 16:19 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 16:19 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 17:00 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 17:00 ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 17:15 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 17:15 ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
[not found] ` <s5hljr5pex0.wl%tiwai-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-16 17:30 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 17:30 ` Andreas Mohr
[not found] ` <20090316173000.GA25647-p/qQFhXj4MHA4IYVXhSI5GHfThorsUsI@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-16 17:34 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 17:34 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 18:06 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 18:06 ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 20:28 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 20:28 ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 21:22 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 21:22 ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
[not found] ` <20090316212227.GA29471-p/qQFhXj4MHA4IYVXhSI5GHfThorsUsI@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-17 0:52 ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-03-17 0:52 ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-03-17 7:57 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-17 7:57 ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
[not found] ` <s5heiwwzim7.wl%tiwai-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-17 11:30 ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-03-17 11:30 ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-03-17 12:52 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-17 12:52 ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2009-03-17 7:57 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-17 7:57 ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
[not found] ` <s5hfxhczinh.wl%tiwai-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-17 10:05 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-17 10:05 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-17 10:38 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-17 10:38 ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
[not found] ` <20090317103845.GA26007-p/qQFhXj4MHA4IYVXhSI5GHfThorsUsI@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-17 10:47 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-17 10:47 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-17 11:25 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-17 11:25 ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
[not found] ` <s5h3adcpf1i.wl%tiwai-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-17 16:18 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-17 16:18 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-17 20:32 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-17 20:32 ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2009-03-18 9:05 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-18 9:05 ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
2009-03-18 9:19 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-18 9:19 ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2009-03-20 18:56 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-20 18:56 ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
2009-03-20 20:33 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-20 20:33 ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
[not found] ` <s5hmybgnddc.wl%tiwai-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-22 12:55 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-22 12:55 ` Andreas Mohr
[not found] ` <20090322125517.GA26498-p/qQFhXj4MHA4IYVXhSI5GHfThorsUsI@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-23 6:51 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-23 6:51 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-11-12 17:20 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-12 17:20 ` [alsa-devel] " Maxim Levitsky
[not found] ` <s5hiqqtkxqr.wl%tiwai-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-12 18:53 ` HDA-emu 0.0.1 (Re: [alsa-devel] Bugs on aspire one A150) Takashi Iwai
2008-11-12 18:53 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-11-09 10:43 ` Bugs on aspire one A150 Alan Jenkins
2008-11-09 10:43 ` Alan Jenkins
2008-11-12 17:48 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-12 17:48 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-09 10:43 ` Alan Jenkins
2008-11-14 19:06 ` Maxim Levitsky
[not found] ` <49157E97.60503-cCz0Lq7MMjm9FHfhHBbuYA@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-14 19:06 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-14 19:06 ` Maxim Levitsky
[not found] ` <491DCC21.6060705-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-14 19:59 ` Alan Jenkins
2008-11-14 19:59 ` Alan Jenkins
[not found] ` <61b223ba0811141159k179558d0i60cebf373baa9fb8-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-15 12:52 ` Maxim Levitsky [this message]
2008-11-15 12:52 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-15 12:55 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-11-10 16:51 ` Bob Copeland
2008-11-10 16:51 ` Bob Copeland
2008-11-10 16:51 ` Bob Copeland
2008-11-10 21:33 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-10 21:33 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-10 21:33 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-10 22:12 ` [ath5k-devel] " Nick Kossifidis
[not found] ` <4918A8C5.3050607-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-10 22:12 ` Nick Kossifidis
2008-11-10 22:12 ` [ath5k-devel] " Nick Kossifidis
2008-11-12 17:51 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-13 14:58 ` Bob Copeland
2008-11-14 3:47 ` Bob Copeland
2008-11-14 18:57 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-17 17:28 ` Bob Copeland
2008-11-17 18:55 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-01 15:33 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-01 15:33 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-01 15:33 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-13 13:28 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-13 13:28 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-13 13:28 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-13 14:08 ` Nick Kossifidis
2008-12-13 14:08 ` Nick Kossifidis
2008-12-13 14:36 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-13 14:36 ` Maxim Levitsky
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2008-12-13 14:38 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-13 14:38 ` Maxim Levitsky
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2008-12-13 14:08 ` Nick Kossifidis
2008-12-13 14:24 ` Bob Copeland
2008-12-13 14:31 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-30 4:26 ` Bob Copeland
2008-12-30 12:43 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-31 9:18 ` Andreas Mohr
2008-12-31 13:59 ` Andreas Mohr
2008-12-31 14:06 ` Bob Copeland
2008-12-31 14:03 ` Bob Copeland
2008-12-31 16:51 ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-01-01 13:41 ` Andreas Mohr
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2009-01-01 20:27 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-01-01 15:09 ` Bob Copeland
2008-12-13 13:15 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-13 13:15 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-13 13:15 ` Maxim Levitsky
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2008-12-13 14:21 ` Maxim Levitsky
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2008-12-13 18:04 ` Maxim Levitsky
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2008-12-14 22:29 ` J.A. Magallón
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