From: Alexey Starikovskiy <aystarik@gmail.com>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, lenb@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch][rfc] acpi: do not use kmem caches
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:02:50 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4933EE8A.2010007@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1228138641.14439.18.camel@penberg-laptop>
Pekka Enberg wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 16:12 +0300, Alexey Starikovskiy wrote:
>
>>> Actually I think it is also somewhat of a bugfix (not to mention that it
>>> seems like a good idea to share testing code with other operating systems).
>>>
>> It is not "kind of a bugfix". Caches were used to allocate all frequenly
>> created objects of fixed size. Removing native cache interface will
>> increase memory consumption and increase code size, and will make it harder
>> to spot actual memory leaks.
>>
>
> Excuse me?
>
> Why do you think Nick's patch is going to _increase_ memory consumption?
> SLUB _already_ merges the ACPI caches with kmalloc caches so you won't
> see any difference there. For SLAB, it's a gain because there's not
> enough activity going on which results in lots of unused space in the
> slabs (which is, btw, the reason SLUB does slab merging in the first
> place).
>
>
Because SLAB has standard memory wells of 2^x size. None of cached ACPI
objects has exactly this size, so bigger block will be used. Plus,
internal ACPICA
caching will add some overhead.
> I'm also wondering why you think it's going to increase text size.
> Unless the ACPI code is doing something weird, the kmalloc() and
> kzalloc() shouldn't be a problem at all.
>
>
if you don't use ACPI_USE_LOCAL_CACHE
ACPICA will enable it's own cache implementation, so it will increase
code size.
> For memory leaks, CONFIG_SLAB_LEAK has been in mainline for a long time
> plus there are the kmemleak patches floating around. So I fail to see
> how it's going to be harder to spot the memory leaks.
It will give you a memory leak, not the kind of it, right?
> After all, the
> rest of the kernel manages fine without a special wrapper, so how is
> ACPI any different here?
>
Do you have another interpreter in kernel space?
Regards,
Alex.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Alexey Starikovskiy <aystarik@gmail.com>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, lenb@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch][rfc] acpi: do not use kmem caches
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:02:50 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4933EE8A.2010007@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1228138641.14439.18.camel@penberg-laptop>
Pekka Enberg wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 16:12 +0300, Alexey Starikovskiy wrote:
>
>>> Actually I think it is also somewhat of a bugfix (not to mention that it
>>> seems like a good idea to share testing code with other operating systems).
>>>
>> It is not "kind of a bugfix". Caches were used to allocate all frequenly
>> created objects of fixed size. Removing native cache interface will
>> increase memory consumption and increase code size, and will make it harder
>> to spot actual memory leaks.
>>
>
> Excuse me?
>
> Why do you think Nick's patch is going to _increase_ memory consumption?
> SLUB _already_ merges the ACPI caches with kmalloc caches so you won't
> see any difference there. For SLAB, it's a gain because there's not
> enough activity going on which results in lots of unused space in the
> slabs (which is, btw, the reason SLUB does slab merging in the first
> place).
>
>
Because SLAB has standard memory wells of 2^x size. None of cached ACPI
objects has exactly this size, so bigger block will be used. Plus,
internal ACPICA
caching will add some overhead.
> I'm also wondering why you think it's going to increase text size.
> Unless the ACPI code is doing something weird, the kmalloc() and
> kzalloc() shouldn't be a problem at all.
>
>
if you don't use ACPI_USE_LOCAL_CACHE
ACPICA will enable it's own cache implementation, so it will increase
code size.
> For memory leaks, CONFIG_SLAB_LEAK has been in mainline for a long time
> plus there are the kmemleak patches floating around. So I fail to see
> how it's going to be harder to spot the memory leaks.
It will give you a memory leak, not the kind of it, right?
> After all, the
> rest of the kernel manages fine without a special wrapper, so how is
> ACPI any different here?
>
Do you have another interpreter in kernel space?
Regards,
Alex.
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Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-01 8:31 [patch][rfc] acpi: do not use kmem caches Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 8:31 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 11:18 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 11:18 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 12:00 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 12:00 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 13:12 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 13:12 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 13:36 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 13:36 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 14:14 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 14:14 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 16:32 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 16:32 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 17:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-12-01 17:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-12-01 17:32 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 17:32 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 13:37 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 13:37 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 14:02 ` Alexey Starikovskiy [this message]
2008-12-01 14:02 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 16:14 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 16:14 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 16:45 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 16:45 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 16:58 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 16:58 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 17:20 ` Moore, Robert
2008-12-01 17:20 ` Moore, Robert
2008-12-01 17:30 ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-01 17:30 ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-01 17:32 ` Moore, Robert
2008-12-01 17:32 ` Moore, Robert
2008-12-01 17:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-12-01 17:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-12-01 17:49 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 17:49 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 17:53 ` Len Brown
2008-12-01 17:53 ` Len Brown
2008-12-01 18:10 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 18:10 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-31 22:04 ` Len Brown
2008-12-31 22:04 ` Len Brown
2009-01-05 4:14 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-05 4:14 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-05 5:43 ` Skywing
2009-01-05 6:55 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-05 6:55 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 14:32 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-12-01 14:32 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-12-01 14:48 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 14:48 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 16:20 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 16:20 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 17:04 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 17:04 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 17:12 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 17:12 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 17:25 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 17:25 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 17:32 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 17:32 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 17:36 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 17:36 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 17:48 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 18:09 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-12-01 18:09 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-12-01 17:43 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 17:43 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 17:31 ` Len Brown
2008-12-01 17:31 ` Len Brown
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