From: Alexey Starikovskiy <aystarik@gmail.com>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, lenb@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch][rfc] acpi: do not use kmem caches
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:43:16 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49342234.9000607@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081201171219.GI10790@wotan.suse.de>
Nick Piggin wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 08:04:21PM +0300, Alexey Starikovskiy wrote:
>
>> Nick Piggin wrote:
>>
>>> Hmm.
>>> Acpi-Operand 2641 2773 64 59 1 : tunables 120 60 8
>>> : slabdata 47 47 0
>>> Acpi-ParseExt 0 0 64 59 1 : tunables 120 60 8
>>> : slabdata 0 0 0
>>> Acpi-Parse 0 0 40 92 1 : tunables 120 60 8
>>> : slabdata 0 0 0
>>> Acpi-State 0 0 80 48 1 : tunables 120 60 8
>>> : slabdata 0 0 0
>>> Acpi-Namespace 1711 1792 32 112 1 : tunables 120 60 8
>>> : slabdata 16 16 0
>>>
>>>
>>> Looks different for my thinkpad.
>>>
>>>
>> Probably this is SLUB vs. SLAB thing Pecca was talking about...
>>
>
> Sizes should not be bigger with SLUB. Although if you have SLUB debugging
> turned on then maybe the size gets padded with redzones, but in that
> configuration you don't expect memory saving anyway because padding bloats
> things up.
>
>
>
>> And, probably you run at 32-bit? This is part of my .config:
>>
>
> No, 64 bit.
>
>
>
>> --------------------------------------------
>> CONFIG_SLUB_DEBUG=y
>> # CONFIG_SLAB is not set
>> CONFIG_SLUB=y
>> # CONFIG_SLOB is not set
>> -------------------------------------------
>>
>> With your patch you would be able to save 64*(2773 - 2641) + 32 *
>> (1792-1711)= 8448 + 2592 = 11040 bytes of memory, less than 3 pages?
>>
>
> You don't account the cost of the kmem cache. Or fragmentation that
> can be caused with extra kmem caches. I guess neither is any problem
> with SLOB, which is used by tiny systems...
>
There is very small amount of fragmentation -- underfill, maybe 3 pages
out of 63, less than 5%.
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From: Alexey Starikovskiy <aystarik@gmail.com>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, lenb@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch][rfc] acpi: do not use kmem caches
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:43:16 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49342234.9000607@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081201171219.GI10790@wotan.suse.de>
Nick Piggin wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 08:04:21PM +0300, Alexey Starikovskiy wrote:
>
>> Nick Piggin wrote:
>>
>>> Hmm.
>>> Acpi-Operand 2641 2773 64 59 1 : tunables 120 60 8
>>> : slabdata 47 47 0
>>> Acpi-ParseExt 0 0 64 59 1 : tunables 120 60 8
>>> : slabdata 0 0 0
>>> Acpi-Parse 0 0 40 92 1 : tunables 120 60 8
>>> : slabdata 0 0 0
>>> Acpi-State 0 0 80 48 1 : tunables 120 60 8
>>> : slabdata 0 0 0
>>> Acpi-Namespace 1711 1792 32 112 1 : tunables 120 60 8
>>> : slabdata 16 16 0
>>>
>>>
>>> Looks different for my thinkpad.
>>>
>>>
>> Probably this is SLUB vs. SLAB thing Pecca was talking about...
>>
>
> Sizes should not be bigger with SLUB. Although if you have SLUB debugging
> turned on then maybe the size gets padded with redzones, but in that
> configuration you don't expect memory saving anyway because padding bloats
> things up.
>
>
>
>> And, probably you run at 32-bit? This is part of my .config:
>>
>
> No, 64 bit.
>
>
>
>> --------------------------------------------
>> CONFIG_SLUB_DEBUG=y
>> # CONFIG_SLAB is not set
>> CONFIG_SLUB=y
>> # CONFIG_SLOB is not set
>> -------------------------------------------
>>
>> With your patch you would be able to save 64*(2773 - 2641) + 32 *
>> (1792-1711)= 8448 + 2592 = 11040 bytes of memory, less than 3 pages?
>>
>
> You don't account the cost of the kmem cache. Or fragmentation that
> can be caused with extra kmem caches. I guess neither is any problem
> with SLOB, which is used by tiny systems...
>
There is very small amount of fragmentation -- underfill, maybe 3 pages
out of 63, less than 5%.
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Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-01 8:31 [patch][rfc] acpi: do not use kmem caches Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 8:31 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 11:18 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 11:18 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 12:00 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 12:00 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 13:12 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 13:12 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 13:36 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 13:36 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 14:14 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 14:14 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 16:32 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 16:32 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 17:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-12-01 17:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-12-01 17:32 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 17:32 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 13:37 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 13:37 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 14:02 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 14:02 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 16:14 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 16:14 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 16:45 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 16:45 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 16:58 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 16:58 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 17:20 ` Moore, Robert
2008-12-01 17:20 ` Moore, Robert
2008-12-01 17:30 ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-01 17:30 ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-01 17:32 ` Moore, Robert
2008-12-01 17:32 ` Moore, Robert
2008-12-01 17:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-12-01 17:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-12-01 17:49 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 17:49 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 17:53 ` Len Brown
2008-12-01 17:53 ` Len Brown
2008-12-01 18:10 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 18:10 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-31 22:04 ` Len Brown
2008-12-31 22:04 ` Len Brown
2009-01-05 4:14 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-05 4:14 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-05 5:43 ` Skywing
2009-01-05 6:55 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-05 6:55 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 14:32 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-12-01 14:32 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-12-01 14:48 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 14:48 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 16:20 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 16:20 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 17:04 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 17:04 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 17:12 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 17:12 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 17:25 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 17:25 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 17:32 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 17:32 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 17:36 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 17:36 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 17:48 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 18:09 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-12-01 18:09 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-12-01 17:43 ` Alexey Starikovskiy [this message]
2008-12-01 17:43 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 17:31 ` Len Brown
2008-12-01 17:31 ` Len Brown
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