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From: Alexey Starikovskiy <aystarik@gmail.com>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, lenb@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch][rfc] acpi: do not use kmem caches
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:43:16 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49342234.9000607@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081201171219.GI10790@wotan.suse.de>

Nick Piggin wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 08:04:21PM +0300, Alexey Starikovskiy wrote:
>   
>> Nick Piggin wrote:
>>     
>>> Hmm.
>>> Acpi-Operand        2641   2773     64   59    1 : tunables  120   60    8 
>>> : slabdata     47     47     0
>>> Acpi-ParseExt          0      0     64   59    1 : tunables  120   60    8 
>>> : slabdata      0      0     0
>>> Acpi-Parse             0      0     40   92    1 : tunables  120   60    8 
>>> : slabdata      0      0     0
>>> Acpi-State             0      0     80   48    1 : tunables  120   60    8 
>>> : slabdata      0      0     0
>>> Acpi-Namespace      1711   1792     32  112    1 : tunables  120   60    8 
>>> : slabdata     16     16     0
>>>
>>>  
>>> Looks different for my thinkpad.
>>>  
>>>       
>> Probably this is SLUB vs. SLAB thing Pecca was talking about...
>>     
>
> Sizes should not be bigger with SLUB. Although if you have SLUB debugging
> turned on then maybe the size gets padded with redzones, but in that
> configuration you don't expect memory saving anyway because padding bloats
> things up.
>
>
>   
>> And, probably you run at 32-bit? This is part of my .config:
>>     
>
> No, 64 bit.
>
>
>   
>> --------------------------------------------
>> CONFIG_SLUB_DEBUG=y
>> # CONFIG_SLAB is not set
>> CONFIG_SLUB=y
>> # CONFIG_SLOB is not set
>> -------------------------------------------
>>
>> With your patch you would be able to save 64*(2773 - 2641) + 32 * 
>> (1792-1711)= 8448 + 2592 = 11040 bytes of memory, less than 3 pages?
>>     
>
> You don't account the cost of the kmem cache. Or fragmentation that
> can be caused with extra kmem caches.  I guess neither is any problem
> with SLOB, which is used by tiny systems...
>   
There is very small amount of fragmentation -- underfill, maybe 3 pages 
out of 63, less than 5%.



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From: Alexey Starikovskiy <aystarik@gmail.com>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, lenb@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch][rfc] acpi: do not use kmem caches
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:43:16 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49342234.9000607@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081201171219.GI10790@wotan.suse.de>

Nick Piggin wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 08:04:21PM +0300, Alexey Starikovskiy wrote:
>   
>> Nick Piggin wrote:
>>     
>>> Hmm.
>>> Acpi-Operand        2641   2773     64   59    1 : tunables  120   60    8 
>>> : slabdata     47     47     0
>>> Acpi-ParseExt          0      0     64   59    1 : tunables  120   60    8 
>>> : slabdata      0      0     0
>>> Acpi-Parse             0      0     40   92    1 : tunables  120   60    8 
>>> : slabdata      0      0     0
>>> Acpi-State             0      0     80   48    1 : tunables  120   60    8 
>>> : slabdata      0      0     0
>>> Acpi-Namespace      1711   1792     32  112    1 : tunables  120   60    8 
>>> : slabdata     16     16     0
>>>
>>>  
>>> Looks different for my thinkpad.
>>>  
>>>       
>> Probably this is SLUB vs. SLAB thing Pecca was talking about...
>>     
>
> Sizes should not be bigger with SLUB. Although if you have SLUB debugging
> turned on then maybe the size gets padded with redzones, but in that
> configuration you don't expect memory saving anyway because padding bloats
> things up.
>
>
>   
>> And, probably you run at 32-bit? This is part of my .config:
>>     
>
> No, 64 bit.
>
>
>   
>> --------------------------------------------
>> CONFIG_SLUB_DEBUG=y
>> # CONFIG_SLAB is not set
>> CONFIG_SLUB=y
>> # CONFIG_SLOB is not set
>> -------------------------------------------
>>
>> With your patch you would be able to save 64*(2773 - 2641) + 32 * 
>> (1792-1711)= 8448 + 2592 = 11040 bytes of memory, less than 3 pages?
>>     
>
> You don't account the cost of the kmem cache. Or fragmentation that
> can be caused with extra kmem caches.  I guess neither is any problem
> with SLOB, which is used by tiny systems...
>   
There is very small amount of fragmentation -- underfill, maybe 3 pages 
out of 63, less than 5%.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-12-01 17:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-01  8:31 [patch][rfc] acpi: do not use kmem caches Nick Piggin
2008-12-01  8:31 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 11:18 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 11:18   ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 12:00   ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 12:00     ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 13:12     ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 13:12       ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 13:36       ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 13:36         ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 14:14         ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 14:14           ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 16:32           ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 16:32             ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 17:18           ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-12-01 17:18             ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-12-01 17:32             ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 17:32               ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 13:37       ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 13:37         ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 14:02         ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 14:02           ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 16:14           ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 16:14             ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 16:45             ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 16:45               ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 16:58               ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 16:58                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 17:20               ` Moore, Robert
2008-12-01 17:20                 ` Moore, Robert
2008-12-01 17:30                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-01 17:30                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-01 17:32                   ` Moore, Robert
2008-12-01 17:32                     ` Moore, Robert
2008-12-01 17:20               ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-12-01 17:20                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-12-01 17:49                 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 17:49                   ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 17:53                 ` Len Brown
2008-12-01 17:53                   ` Len Brown
2008-12-01 18:10                   ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 18:10                     ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-31 22:04                     ` Len Brown
2008-12-31 22:04                       ` Len Brown
2009-01-05  4:14                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-05  4:14                         ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-05  5:43                         ` Skywing
2009-01-05  6:55                           ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-05  6:55                             ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 14:32         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-12-01 14:32           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-12-01 14:48           ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 14:48             ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 16:20             ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 16:20               ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 17:04               ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 17:04                 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 17:12                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 17:12                   ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-01 17:25                   ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 17:25                     ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 17:32                     ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 17:32                       ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 17:36                       ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 17:36                         ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 17:48                         ` Pekka Enberg
2008-12-01 18:09                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-12-01 18:09                           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-12-01 17:43                   ` Alexey Starikovskiy [this message]
2008-12-01 17:43                     ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2008-12-01 17:31 ` Len Brown
2008-12-01 17:31   ` Len Brown

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