From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>, kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC/T/D][PATCH 2/2] Linux/Guest cooperative unmapped page cache control
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:09:44 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C15E3C8.20407@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100611045600.GE5191@balbir.in.ibm.com>
On 06/11/2010 07:56 AM, Balbir Singh wrote:
>
>> Just to be clear, let's say we have a mapped page (say of /sbin/init)
>> that's been unreferenced since _just_ after the system booted. We also
>> have an unmapped page cache page of a file often used at runtime, say
>> one from /etc/resolv.conf or /etc/passwd.
>>
>> Which page will be preferred for eviction with this patch set?
>>
>>
> In this case the order is as follows
>
> 1. First we pick free pages if any
> 2. If we don't have free pages, we go after unmapped page cache and
> slab cache
> 3. If that fails as well, we go after regularly memory
>
> In the scenario that you describe, we'll not be able to easily free up
> the frequently referenced page from /etc/*. The code will move on to
> step 3 and do its regular reclaim.
>
Still it seems to me you are subverting the normal order of reclaim. I
don't see why an unmapped page cache or slab cache item should be
evicted before a mapped page. Certainly the cost of rebuilding a dentry
compared to the gain from evicting it, is much higher than that of
reestablishing a mapped page.
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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>, kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC/T/D][PATCH 2/2] Linux/Guest cooperative unmapped page cache control
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:09:44 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C15E3C8.20407@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100611045600.GE5191@balbir.in.ibm.com>
On 06/11/2010 07:56 AM, Balbir Singh wrote:
>
>> Just to be clear, let's say we have a mapped page (say of /sbin/init)
>> that's been unreferenced since _just_ after the system booted. We also
>> have an unmapped page cache page of a file often used at runtime, say
>> one from /etc/resolv.conf or /etc/passwd.
>>
>> Which page will be preferred for eviction with this patch set?
>>
>>
> In this case the order is as follows
>
> 1. First we pick free pages if any
> 2. If we don't have free pages, we go after unmapped page cache and
> slab cache
> 3. If that fails as well, we go after regularly memory
>
> In the scenario that you describe, we'll not be able to easily free up
> the frequently referenced page from /etc/*. The code will move on to
> step 3 and do its regular reclaim.
>
Still it seems to me you are subverting the normal order of reclaim. I
don't see why an unmapped page cache or slab cache item should be
evicted before a mapped page. Certainly the cost of rebuilding a dentry
compared to the gain from evicting it, is much higher than that of
reestablishing a mapped page.
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error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
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Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-06-08 15:51 [RFC/T/D][PATCH 0/2] KVM page cache optimization (v2) Balbir Singh
2010-06-08 15:51 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-08 15:51 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] Linux/Guest unmapped page cache control Balbir Singh
2010-06-08 15:51 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-13 18:31 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-13 18:31 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-14 0:28 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-14 0:28 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-14 6:49 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-14 6:49 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-14 7:00 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-14 7:00 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-14 7:36 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-14 7:36 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-14 7:49 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-14 7:49 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-08 15:51 ` [RFC/T/D][PATCH 2/2] Linux/Guest cooperative " Balbir Singh
2010-06-08 15:51 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-10 9:43 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-10 9:43 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-10 14:25 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-10 14:25 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-11 0:07 ` Dave Hansen
2010-06-11 0:07 ` Dave Hansen
2010-06-11 1:54 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-11 1:54 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-11 4:46 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-11 4:46 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-11 5:05 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-11 5:05 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-11 5:08 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-11 5:08 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-11 6:14 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-11 6:14 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-11 4:56 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-11 4:56 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-14 8:09 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-06-14 8:09 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-14 8:48 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-14 8:48 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-14 12:40 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-14 12:40 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-14 12:50 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-14 12:50 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-14 13:01 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-14 13:01 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-14 15:33 ` Dave Hansen
2010-06-14 15:33 ` Dave Hansen
2010-06-14 15:44 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-14 15:44 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-14 15:55 ` Dave Hansen
2010-06-14 15:55 ` Dave Hansen
2010-06-14 16:34 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-14 16:34 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-14 17:45 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-14 17:45 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-15 6:58 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-15 6:58 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-15 7:49 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-15 7:49 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-15 9:44 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-15 9:44 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-15 10:18 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-15 10:18 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-14 17:58 ` Dave Hansen
2010-06-14 17:58 ` Dave Hansen
2010-06-15 7:07 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-15 7:07 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-15 14:47 ` Dave Hansen
2010-06-15 14:47 ` Dave Hansen
2010-06-16 11:39 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-16 11:39 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-17 6:04 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-17 6:04 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-14 15:12 ` Dave Hansen
2010-06-14 15:12 ` Dave Hansen
2010-06-14 15:34 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-14 15:34 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-14 17:40 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-14 17:40 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-15 7:11 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-15 7:11 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-14 16:58 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-14 16:58 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-14 17:09 ` Dave Hansen
2010-06-14 17:09 ` Dave Hansen
2010-06-14 17:16 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-14 17:16 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-15 7:12 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-15 7:12 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-15 7:52 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-15 7:52 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-15 9:54 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-15 9:54 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-15 12:49 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-15 12:49 ` Balbir Singh
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