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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Cc: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Nakajima, Jun" <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	"Dong, Eddie" <eddie.dong@intel.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: APIC: avoid instruction emulation for EOI writes
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 17:14:24 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E5B9EC0.2010808@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E5B9A3B.2020009@siemens.com>

On 08/29/2011 04:55 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 2011-08-29 13:11, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >  On 08/29/2011 02:03 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >>>
> >>>   Just reading the first byte requires a guest page table walk.  This is
> >>>   probably the highest cost in emulation (which also requires a walk for
> >>>   the data access).
> >>
> >>  And what about caching the result of the first walk? Usually, a "sane
> >>  guest" won't have many code pages that issue the EIO.
> >>
> >
> >  There's no way to know when to invalidate the cache.
>
> Set the affected code page read-only?

The virt-phys mapping could change too.  And please, don't think of new 
reasons to write protect pages, they break up my lovely 2M maps.

> >
> >  We could go a bit further, and cache the the whole thing.  On the first
> >  exit, do the entire emulation, and remember %rip.  On the second exit,
> >  if %rip matches, skip directly to kvm_lapic_eoi().
> >
> >  But I don't think it's worth it.  This also has failure modes, and
> >  really, no guest will ever write to EOI with stosl.
>
> ...or add/sub/and/or etc.

Argh, yes, flags can be updated.

Actually, this might work - if we get a read access first as part of the 
RMW, we'll emulate the instruction.  No idea what the hardware does in 
this case.

>   Well, we've done other crazy things in the
> past just to keep even the unlikely case correct. I was just wondering
> if that policy changed.

I can't answer yes to that question.  But I see no way to make it work 
both fast and correct.

>
> However, I just realized that user space is able to avoid this
> inaccuracy for potentially insane guests by not using in-kernel
> irqchips. So we have at least a knob.

Could/should have a flag to disable this in the kernel as well.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-29 14:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-29  6:09 [PATCH] KVM: APIC: avoid instruction emulation for EOI writes Tian, Kevin
2011-08-29  7:23 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-29  7:35   ` Tian, Kevin
2011-08-29  8:15     ` Sasha Levin
2011-08-29  8:51       ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-29 10:24 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-29 10:59   ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-29 11:03     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-29 11:11       ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-29 13:55         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-29 14:14           ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2011-09-10  8:41             ` ya su
2011-09-11  7:11               ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-11  8:05                 ` Jan Kiszka

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