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From: LiuShuo <b35362@freescale.com>
To: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
Cc: Artem.Bityutskiy@nokia.com, dedekind1@gmail.com,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	shuo.liu@freescale.com, linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, leoli@freescale.com,
	dwmw2@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] mtd/nand : workaround for Freescale FCM to support large-page Nand chip
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:46:51 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EE6BC9B.4000602@freescale.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EE6725C.3050706@freescale.com>

于 2011年12月13日 05:30, Scott Wood 写道:
> On 12/12/2011 03:19 PM, Artem Bityutskiy wrote:
>> On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 15:15 -0600, Scott Wood wrote:
>>> NAND chips come from the factory with bad blocks marked at a certain
>>> offset into each page.  This offset is normally in the OOB area, but
>>> since we change the layout from "4k data, 128 byte oob" to "2k data, 64
>>> byte oob, 2k data, 64 byte oob" the marker is no longer in the oob.  On
>>> first use we need to migrate the markers so that they are still in the oob.
>> Ah, I see, thanks. Are you planning to implement in-kernel migration or
>> use a user-space tool?
> That's the kind of answer I was hoping to get from Shuo. :-)
OK, I try to do this. Wait for a couple of days.

-LiuShuo
> Most likely is a firmware-based tool, but I'd like there to be some way
> for the tool to mark that this has happened, so that the Linux driver
> can refuse to do non-raw accesses to a chip that isn't marked as having
> been migrated (or at least yell loudly in the log).
>
> Speaking of raw accesses, these are currently broken in the eLBC
> driver... we need some way for the generic layer to tell us what kind of
> access it is before the transaction starts, not once it wants to read
> out the buffer (unless we add more hacks to delay the start of a read
> transaction until first buffer access...).  We'd be better off with a
> high-level "read page/write page" function that does the whole thing
> (not just buffer access, but command issuance as well).
>
> -Scott

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: LiuShuo <b35362@freescale.com>
To: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
Cc: Artem.Bityutskiy@nokia.com, dedekind1@gmail.com,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	shuo.liu@freescale.com, linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, dwmw2@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] mtd/nand : workaround for Freescale FCM to support large-page Nand chip
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:46:51 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EE6BC9B.4000602@freescale.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EE6725C.3050706@freescale.com>

=E4=BA=8E 2011=E5=B9=B412=E6=9C=8813=E6=97=A5 05:30, Scott Wood =E5=86=99=
=E9=81=93:
> On 12/12/2011 03:19 PM, Artem Bityutskiy wrote:
>> On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 15:15 -0600, Scott Wood wrote:
>>> NAND chips come from the factory with bad blocks marked at a certain
>>> offset into each page.  This offset is normally in the OOB area, but
>>> since we change the layout from "4k data, 128 byte oob" to "2k data, =
64
>>> byte oob, 2k data, 64 byte oob" the marker is no longer in the oob.  =
On
>>> first use we need to migrate the markers so that they are still in th=
e oob.
>> Ah, I see, thanks. Are you planning to implement in-kernel migration o=
r
>> use a user-space tool?
> That's the kind of answer I was hoping to get from Shuo. :-)
OK, I try to do this. Wait for a couple of days.

-LiuShuo
> Most likely is a firmware-based tool, but I'd like there to be some way
> for the tool to mark that this has happened, so that the Linux driver
> can refuse to do non-raw accesses to a chip that isn't marked as having
> been migrated (or at least yell loudly in the log).
>
> Speaking of raw accesses, these are currently broken in the eLBC
> driver... we need some way for the generic layer to tell us what kind o=
f
> access it is before the transaction starts, not once it wants to read
> out the buffer (unless we add more hacks to delay the start of a read
> transaction until first buffer access...).  We'd be better off with a
> high-level "read page/write page" function that does the whole thing
> (not just buffer access, but command issuance as well).
>
> -Scott

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: LiuShuo <b35362@freescale.com>
To: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
Cc: <dedekind1@gmail.com>, <shuo.liu@freescale.com>,
	<dwmw2@infradead.org>, <Artem.Bityutskiy@nokia.com>,
	<linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>, <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	<akpm@linux-foundation.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<leoli@freescale.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] mtd/nand : workaround for Freescale FCM to support large-page Nand chip
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:46:51 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EE6BC9B.4000602@freescale.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EE6725C.3050706@freescale.com>

于 2011年12月13日 05:30, Scott Wood 写道:
> On 12/12/2011 03:19 PM, Artem Bityutskiy wrote:
>> On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 15:15 -0600, Scott Wood wrote:
>>> NAND chips come from the factory with bad blocks marked at a certain
>>> offset into each page.  This offset is normally in the OOB area, but
>>> since we change the layout from "4k data, 128 byte oob" to "2k data, 64
>>> byte oob, 2k data, 64 byte oob" the marker is no longer in the oob.  On
>>> first use we need to migrate the markers so that they are still in the oob.
>> Ah, I see, thanks. Are you planning to implement in-kernel migration or
>> use a user-space tool?
> That's the kind of answer I was hoping to get from Shuo. :-)
OK, I try to do this. Wait for a couple of days.

-LiuShuo
> Most likely is a firmware-based tool, but I'd like there to be some way
> for the tool to mark that this has happened, so that the Linux driver
> can refuse to do non-raw accesses to a chip that isn't marked as having
> been migrated (or at least yell loudly in the log).
>
> Speaking of raw accesses, these are currently broken in the eLBC
> driver... we need some way for the generic layer to tell us what kind of
> access it is before the transaction starts, not once it wants to read
> out the buffer (unless we add more hacks to delay the start of a read
> transaction until first buffer access...).  We'd be better off with a
> high-level "read page/write page" function that does the whole thing
> (not just buffer access, but command issuance as well).
>
> -Scott



  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-13  2:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-04  4:31 [PATCH 1/3] mtd/nand : use elbc_fcm_ctrl->oob to set FPAR_MS bit of FPAR shuo.liu
2011-12-04  4:31 ` shuo.liu
2011-12-04  4:31 ` shuo.liu
2011-12-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 2/3] mtd/nand : set correct length to FBCR for a non-full-page write shuo.liu
2011-12-04  4:31   ` shuo.liu
2011-12-04  4:31   ` shuo.liu
2011-12-04  4:31 ` [PATCH 3/3] mtd/nand : workaround for Freescale FCM to support large-page Nand chip shuo.liu
2011-12-04  4:31   ` shuo.liu
2011-12-04  4:31   ` shuo.liu
2011-12-05  6:47   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-12-05  6:47     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-12-05  6:47     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-12-05 19:46     ` Scott Wood
2011-12-05 19:46       ` Scott Wood
2011-12-06 11:49       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-12-06 11:49         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-12-06 11:49   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-12-06 11:49     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-12-06 11:49     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-12-07  0:09   ` Scott Wood
2011-12-07  0:09     ` Scott Wood
2011-12-07  0:09     ` Scott Wood
2011-12-07  3:55     ` LiuShuo
2011-12-07  3:55       ` LiuShuo
2011-12-07  3:55       ` LiuShuo
2011-12-07 19:11       ` Scott Wood
2011-12-07 19:11         ` Scott Wood
2011-12-07 19:11         ` Scott Wood
2011-12-08 10:44         ` LiuShuo
2011-12-08 10:44           ` LiuShuo
2011-12-08 10:44           ` LiuShuo
2011-12-08 18:43           ` Scott Wood
2011-12-08 18:43             ` Scott Wood
2011-12-08 18:43             ` Scott Wood
2011-12-12 21:09     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-12-12 21:09       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-12-12 21:09       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-12-12 21:15       ` Scott Wood
2011-12-12 21:15         ` Scott Wood
2011-12-12 21:15         ` Scott Wood
2011-12-12 21:19         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-12-12 21:19           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-12-12 21:19           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-12-12 21:30           ` Scott Wood
2011-12-12 21:30             ` Scott Wood
2011-12-12 21:30             ` Scott Wood
2011-12-13  2:46             ` LiuShuo [this message]
2011-12-13  2:46               ` LiuShuo
2011-12-13  2:46               ` LiuShuo
2011-12-14  8:41               ` LiuShuo
2011-12-14  8:41                 ` LiuShuo
2011-12-14  8:41                 ` LiuShuo
2011-12-14 20:15                 ` Scott Wood
2011-12-14 20:15                   ` Scott Wood
2011-12-14 20:15                   ` Scott Wood
2011-12-15  4:59                   ` Li Yang
2011-12-15  4:59                     ` Li Yang
2011-12-15  4:59                     ` Li Yang
2011-12-15 17:32                     ` Scott Wood
2011-12-15 17:32                       ` Scott Wood
2011-12-16  2:44                   ` LiuShuo
2011-12-16  2:44                     ` LiuShuo
2011-12-16  2:44                     ` LiuShuo
2011-12-16 17:59                     ` Scott Wood
2011-12-16 17:59                       ` Scott Wood
2011-12-16 17:59                       ` Scott Wood
2011-12-19 11:05                       ` Li Yang
2011-12-19 11:05                         ` Li Yang
2011-12-19 11:05                         ` Li Yang
2011-12-19 16:47                         ` Scott Wood
2011-12-19 16:47                           ` Scott Wood
2011-12-20  9:08                           ` Li Yang
2011-12-20  9:08                             ` Li Yang
2011-12-20  9:08                             ` Li Yang
2011-12-20 19:48                             ` Scott Wood
2011-12-20 19:48                               ` Scott Wood
2011-12-17 14:35             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-12-17 14:35               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-12-17 14:35               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-12-19 18:38               ` Scott Wood
2011-12-19 18:38                 ` Scott Wood
2011-12-19 18:38                 ` Scott Wood
2011-12-19 18:42                 ` Scott Wood
2011-12-19 18:42                   ` Scott Wood
2011-12-14  3:41       ` LiuShuo
2011-12-14  3:41         ` LiuShuo
2011-12-14  3:41         ` LiuShuo
2011-12-14 20:53         ` Scott Wood
2011-12-14 20:53           ` Scott Wood
2011-12-14 20:53           ` Scott Wood
2011-12-05  6:50 ` [PATCH 1/3] mtd/nand : use elbc_fcm_ctrl->oob to set FPAR_MS bit of FPAR Artem Bityutskiy
2011-12-05  6:50   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-12-05  6:50   ` Artem Bityutskiy
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-11-24  0:41 b35362
2011-11-24  0:41 ` [PATCH 3/3] mtd/nand : workaround for Freescale FCM to support large-page Nand chip b35362
2011-11-24  0:41   ` b35362
2011-11-24  0:41   ` b35362
2011-11-24  7:37   ` Li Yang-R58472
2011-11-24  7:37     ` Li Yang-R58472
2011-11-24  7:37     ` Li Yang-R58472
2011-11-28 17:20     ` Scott Wood
2011-11-28 17:20       ` Scott Wood
2011-11-24  7:41   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-11-24  7:41     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-11-24  7:41     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-11-24  7:49     ` Li Yang-R58472
2011-11-24  7:49       ` Li Yang-R58472
2011-11-24  7:49       ` Li Yang-R58472
2011-11-24  8:16       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-11-24  8:16         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-11-24 10:02         ` LiuShuo
2011-11-24 10:02           ` LiuShuo
2011-11-24 10:02           ` LiuShuo
2011-11-24 11:07           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-11-24 11:07             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-11-28 21:48   ` Scott Wood
2011-11-28 21:48     ` Scott Wood
2011-11-28 21:48     ` Scott Wood
2011-11-28 21:49     ` Scott Wood
2011-11-28 21:49       ` Scott Wood
2011-11-28 21:49       ` Scott Wood

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