From: Hui Wang <jason77.wang@gmail.com>
To: "Lothar Waßmann" <LW@karo-electronics.de>
Cc: Shawn Guo <shawn.guo@linaro.org>,
Marc Kleine-Budde <mkl@pengutronix.de>,
Hui Wang <jason77.wang@gmail.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-can@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] net: flexcan: add transceiver switch gpios support
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 10:55:55 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FF10DBB.1020106@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20460.19712.158996.397146@ipc1.ka-ro>
Lothar Waßmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Shawn Guo writes:
>
>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 02:07:57PM +0200, Lothar Waßmann wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Shawn Guo writes:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 01:29:19PM +0200, Marc Kleine-Budde wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I mean which name is more precise, do these gpio enable/standy a "phy"
>>>>> or a "transceiver". For example:
>>>>> http://www.nxp.com/documents/application_note/AN00094.pdf, this document
>>>>> says: TJA1041/1041A high speed CAN transceiver.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Isn't term "phy" (physical interface) generally meant to be the same
>>>> thing as "transceiver"? I just happened to like the shorter one as
>>>> what Hui did in his patch.
>>>>
>>>> But it does not really matter to me, will change the name since you
>>>> care about it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> A transceiver is just a dumb piece of hardware, while a PHY contains
>>> some intelligence of its own.
>>>
>>>
>> Then, it sounds more like a PHY than transceiver, since it's an IC
>> chip with some control over it.
>>
>>
> The 'I' in 'IC' does not stand for 'intelligent', but for
> 'integrated'. ;)
> A can transceiver is usually merely a switchable buffer. There are no
> registers to configure it or an internal processor that does some
> magic.
>
>
Sorry for reply late, in my first patch, i chose "phy" instead of "xcvr"
because the MC33902 datasheet tell me it is a "high speed CAN physical
interface", and it includes "an internal 5.0 V supply for the CAN bus
transceiver".
And from the diagram in the page 1 of the MC33902 datasheet, the MC33902
includes bus xcvr, i/o control logic, power supply and external
regulator control logic. As a result i decided to use phy in the driver.
Regards,
Hui.
> Lothar Waßmann
>
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: jason77.wang@gmail.com (Hui Wang)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v2 2/2] net: flexcan: add transceiver switch gpios support
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 10:55:55 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FF10DBB.1020106@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20460.19712.158996.397146@ipc1.ka-ro>
Lothar Wa?mann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Shawn Guo writes:
>
>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 02:07:57PM +0200, Lothar Wa?mann wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Shawn Guo writes:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 01:29:19PM +0200, Marc Kleine-Budde wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I mean which name is more precise, do these gpio enable/standy a "phy"
>>>>> or a "transceiver". For example:
>>>>> http://www.nxp.com/documents/application_note/AN00094.pdf, this document
>>>>> says: TJA1041/1041A high speed CAN transceiver.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Isn't term "phy" (physical interface) generally meant to be the same
>>>> thing as "transceiver"? I just happened to like the shorter one as
>>>> what Hui did in his patch.
>>>>
>>>> But it does not really matter to me, will change the name since you
>>>> care about it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> A transceiver is just a dumb piece of hardware, while a PHY contains
>>> some intelligence of its own.
>>>
>>>
>> Then, it sounds more like a PHY than transceiver, since it's an IC
>> chip with some control over it.
>>
>>
> The 'I' in 'IC' does not stand for 'intelligent', but for
> 'integrated'. ;)
> A can transceiver is usually merely a switchable buffer. There are no
> registers to configure it or an internal processor that does some
> magic.
>
>
Sorry for reply late, in my first patch, i chose "phy" instead of "xcvr"
because the MC33902 datasheet tell me it is a "high speed CAN physical
interface", and it includes "an internal 5.0 V supply for the CAN bus
transceiver".
And from the diagram in the page 1 of the MC33902 datasheet, the MC33902
includes bus xcvr, i/o control logic, power supply and external
regulator control logic. As a result i decided to use phy in the driver.
Regards,
Hui.
> Lothar Wa?mann
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-07-02 2:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-06-28 3:21 [PATCH v2 0/2] flexcan driver updates Shawn Guo
2012-06-28 3:21 ` Shawn Guo
2012-06-28 3:21 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] net: flexcan: clock-frequency is optional for device tree probe Shawn Guo
2012-06-28 3:21 ` Shawn Guo
2012-06-28 11:23 ` Dong Aisheng
2012-06-28 11:23 ` Dong Aisheng
2012-06-28 3:21 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] net: flexcan: add transceiver switch gpios support Shawn Guo
2012-06-28 3:21 ` Shawn Guo
2012-06-28 5:22 ` Lothar Waßmann
2012-06-28 5:22 ` Lothar Waßmann
2012-06-28 5:30 ` Shawn Guo
2012-06-28 5:30 ` Shawn Guo
2012-06-28 6:14 ` Hui Wang
2012-06-28 6:14 ` Hui Wang
2012-06-28 6:34 ` Shawn Guo
2012-06-28 6:34 ` Shawn Guo
2012-06-28 7:01 ` Hui Wang
2012-06-28 7:01 ` Hui Wang
2012-06-28 10:32 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2012-06-28 10:32 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2012-06-28 10:31 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2012-06-28 10:31 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2012-06-28 11:21 ` Shawn Guo
2012-06-28 11:21 ` Shawn Guo
2012-06-28 11:29 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2012-06-28 11:29 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2012-06-28 11:41 ` Shawn Guo
2012-06-28 11:41 ` Shawn Guo
2012-06-28 11:52 ` Shawn Guo
2012-06-28 11:52 ` Shawn Guo
2012-06-28 12:05 ` Shawn Guo
2012-06-28 12:05 ` Shawn Guo
2012-06-28 12:11 ` Dong Aisheng
2012-06-28 12:11 ` Dong Aisheng
2012-06-28 12:19 ` Lothar Waßmann
2012-06-28 12:19 ` Lothar Waßmann
2012-06-28 12:07 ` Lothar Waßmann
2012-06-28 12:07 ` Lothar Waßmann
2012-06-28 12:13 ` Shawn Guo
2012-06-28 12:13 ` Shawn Guo
2012-06-28 12:24 ` Lothar Waßmann
2012-06-28 12:24 ` Lothar Waßmann
2012-07-02 2:55 ` Hui Wang [this message]
2012-07-02 2:55 ` Hui Wang
2012-06-28 12:08 ` Kurt Van Dijck
2012-06-28 12:08 ` Kurt Van Dijck
2012-06-28 12:10 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2012-06-28 12:10 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2012-06-28 12:16 ` Shawn Guo
2012-06-28 12:16 ` Shawn Guo
2012-06-28 11:39 ` Dong Aisheng
2012-06-28 11:39 ` Dong Aisheng
2012-06-28 11:33 ` Dong Aisheng
2012-06-28 11:33 ` Dong Aisheng
2012-06-28 11:46 ` Shawn Guo
2012-06-28 11:46 ` Shawn Guo
2012-06-28 11:48 ` Dong Aisheng
2012-06-28 11:48 ` Dong Aisheng
2012-06-28 12:00 ` Shawn Guo
2012-06-28 12:00 ` Shawn Guo
2012-06-28 12:02 ` Dong Aisheng
2012-06-28 12:02 ` Dong Aisheng
2012-06-28 12:19 ` Shawn Guo
2012-06-28 12:19 ` Shawn Guo
2012-06-28 12:05 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2012-06-28 12:05 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2012-06-28 12:18 ` Dong Aisheng
2012-06-28 12:18 ` Dong Aisheng
2012-06-28 12:32 ` Lothar Waßmann
2012-06-28 12:32 ` Lothar Waßmann
2012-06-28 12:40 ` Shawn Guo
2012-06-28 12:40 ` Shawn Guo
2012-06-28 12:47 ` Dong Aisheng
2012-06-28 12:47 ` Dong Aisheng
2012-06-28 12:39 ` Shawn Guo
2012-06-28 12:39 ` Shawn Guo
2012-06-29 9:27 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2012-06-29 9:27 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
[not found] ` <502226AB.4050205@gmail.com>
2012-08-08 9:55 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2012-08-09 2:39 ` Hui Wang
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