From: hare@suse.de (Hannes Reinecke)
Subject: complete boot failure in 4.5-rc1 caused by nvme: make SG_IO support optional
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 08:32:26 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56B8448A.3000106@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1454886441.2329.27.camel@HansenPartnership.com>
On 02/08/2016 12:07 AM, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Sun, 2016-02-07@15:28 -0700, Jens Axboe wrote:
>> On 02/07/2016 09:04 AM, James Bottomley wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2016-02-07@10:22 +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>>> Keith said it should be on by default, and I promised him to
>>>> change
>>>> it once we run into problems, which I guess this counts as.
>>>>
>>>> But just curious: what distro are you using? Upstream systemd
>>>> explicitly rejected using scsi_id for NVMe here:
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/1453
>>>>
>>>> and all my test systems don't do this either.
>>>
>>> This was SUSE (in my case, openSUSE Leap). I just checked the
>>> source
>>> package; they patch the by-id rules back in for NVME:
>>>
>>> # PATCH-FIX-SUSE 1101-rules-persistent-device-names-for-NVMe
>>> -devices.patch (bsc#944132)
>>> Patch1101: 1101-rules-persistent-device-names-for-NVMe
>>> -devices.patch
>>>
>>> The bugzilla is giving access denied for bug id 944132, so it's
>>> likely
>>> some proprietary vendor problem. The patch has no preamble, so
>>> it's
>>> hard to tell what they were thinking.
>>
>> I run root-on-nvme on my laptop, and I haven't observed any problems.
>
> Me too apparently. It looks like this problem may be SUSE specific
> unless another distro has enabled this. I can see why they would: you
> do need persistent names for devices, even NVMe ones.
>
>> Generally I hate for options to default y unless absolutely
>> necessary, it's a sure fire way to feature creep your kernel without
>> noticing. I don't think getting all hot about this issue is fair, if
>> the only known case is suse.
>
> Well, OK, I'm annoyed because it was a systemd system which means
> debugging boot failures are excruciatingly difficult so it took me a
> week and a half to find out what the problem was. Perhaps I was a bit
> rash to label this as an easily foreseen problem.
>
> I opened a bug against SUSE to tell them to turn it on:
>
> https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=965497
>
> The second problem is that there's currently no way to transition to
> using the serial attribute the way the udev 60-persistent-storage.rules
> are written, so if distros have some by-id hack, it will have to be
> maintained for a while. I annotated the already closed bug on this in
> systemd with the rules that work for me.
>
Why, but you can.
That's precisely what I did with the transition to sg_inq; I've
added a new set of rules (55-sg_inq.rules and 59-sg-symlinks.rules)
which will override the values from 60-persistent-storage.rules.
Do we have defined sysfs attributes for NVMe devices nowadays?
If so I'd be willing to create/send some sysfs rules for them.
Cheers,
Hannes
--
Dr. Hannes Reinecke Teamlead Storage & Networking
hare at suse.de +49 911 74053 688
SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 N?rnberg
GF: F. Imend?rffer, J. Smithard, J. Guild, D. Upmanyu, G. Norton
HRB 21284 (AG N?rnberg)
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From: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: "linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org" <linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org>,
linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
linux-scsi <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: complete boot failure in 4.5-rc1 caused by nvme: make SG_IO support optional
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 08:32:26 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56B8448A.3000106@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1454886441.2329.27.camel@HansenPartnership.com>
On 02/08/2016 12:07 AM, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Sun, 2016-02-07 at 15:28 -0700, Jens Axboe wrote:
>> On 02/07/2016 09:04 AM, James Bottomley wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2016-02-07 at 10:22 +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>>> Keith said it should be on by default, and I promised him to
>>>> change
>>>> it once we run into problems, which I guess this counts as.
>>>>
>>>> But just curious: what distro are you using? Upstream systemd
>>>> explicitly rejected using scsi_id for NVMe here:
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/1453
>>>>
>>>> and all my test systems don't do this either.
>>>
>>> This was SUSE (in my case, openSUSE Leap). I just checked the
>>> source
>>> package; they patch the by-id rules back in for NVME:
>>>
>>> # PATCH-FIX-SUSE 1101-rules-persistent-device-names-for-NVMe
>>> -devices.patch (bsc#944132)
>>> Patch1101: 1101-rules-persistent-device-names-for-NVMe
>>> -devices.patch
>>>
>>> The bugzilla is giving access denied for bug id 944132, so it's
>>> likely
>>> some proprietary vendor problem. The patch has no preamble, so
>>> it's
>>> hard to tell what they were thinking.
>>
>> I run root-on-nvme on my laptop, and I haven't observed any problems.
>
> Me too apparently. It looks like this problem may be SUSE specific
> unless another distro has enabled this. I can see why they would: you
> do need persistent names for devices, even NVMe ones.
>
>> Generally I hate for options to default y unless absolutely
>> necessary, it's a sure fire way to feature creep your kernel without
>> noticing. I don't think getting all hot about this issue is fair, if
>> the only known case is suse.
>
> Well, OK, I'm annoyed because it was a systemd system which means
> debugging boot failures are excruciatingly difficult so it took me a
> week and a half to find out what the problem was. Perhaps I was a bit
> rash to label this as an easily foreseen problem.
>
> I opened a bug against SUSE to tell them to turn it on:
>
> https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=965497
>
> The second problem is that there's currently no way to transition to
> using the serial attribute the way the udev 60-persistent-storage.rules
> are written, so if distros have some by-id hack, it will have to be
> maintained for a while. I annotated the already closed bug on this in
> systemd with the rules that work for me.
>
Why, but you can.
That's precisely what I did with the transition to sg_inq; I've
added a new set of rules (55-sg_inq.rules and 59-sg-symlinks.rules)
which will override the values from 60-persistent-storage.rules.
Do we have defined sysfs attributes for NVMe devices nowadays?
If so I'd be willing to create/send some sysfs rules for them.
Cheers,
Hannes
--
Dr. Hannes Reinecke Teamlead Storage & Networking
hare@suse.de +49 911 74053 688
SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg
GF: F. Imendörffer, J. Smithard, J. Guild, D. Upmanyu, G. Norton
HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-02-08 7:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-02-06 18:33 complete boot failure in 4.5-rc1 caused by nvme: make SG_IO support optional James Bottomley
2016-02-06 18:33 ` James Bottomley
2016-02-07 9:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-07 9:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-07 16:04 ` James Bottomley
2016-02-07 16:04 ` James Bottomley
2016-02-07 22:28 ` Jens Axboe
2016-02-07 22:28 ` Jens Axboe
2016-02-07 23:07 ` James Bottomley
2016-02-07 23:07 ` James Bottomley
2016-02-08 7:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-08 7:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-08 7:32 ` Hannes Reinecke [this message]
2016-02-08 7:32 ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-02-08 10:01 ` Sagi Grimberg
2016-02-08 10:01 ` Sagi Grimberg
2016-02-08 10:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-08 10:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-08 15:12 ` Keith Busch
2016-02-08 15:12 ` Keith Busch
2016-02-08 15:19 ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-02-08 15:19 ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-02-08 16:15 ` Keith Busch
2016-02-08 16:15 ` Keith Busch
2016-02-08 15:23 ` James Bottomley
2016-02-08 15:23 ` James Bottomley
2016-02-09 12:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-09 12:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-09 13:29 ` Jens Axboe
2016-02-09 13:29 ` Jens Axboe
2016-02-09 17:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-09 17:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-09 17:14 ` Jens Axboe
2016-02-09 17:14 ` Jens Axboe
2016-02-09 17:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-09 17:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-09 17:19 ` Jens Axboe
2016-02-09 17:19 ` Jens Axboe
2016-02-09 15:37 ` James Bottomley
2016-02-09 15:37 ` James Bottomley
2016-02-08 7:26 ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-02-08 7:26 ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-02-08 7:26 ` Hannes Reinecke
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