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From: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
To: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Michael Spradling <mspradli@codeaurora.org>,
	Digant Desai <digantd@codeaurora.org>,
	Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Alistair Francis <alistair.francis@xilinx.com>,
	qemu-arm@nongnu.org, Aaron Lindsay <aclindsa@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-arm] [PATCH v6 03/14] migration: Add post_save function to VMStateDescription
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 14:07:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y3aw93p7.fsf@trasno.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181016140655.GI2426@work-vm> (David Alan Gilbert's message of "Tue, 16 Oct 2018 15:06:55 +0100")

"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com> wrote:
> * Aaron Lindsay (aclindsa@gmail.com) wrote:
>> On Oct 16 09:21, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
>> > * Richard Henderson (richard.henderson@linaro.org) wrote:
>> > > On 10/10/18 1:37 PM, Aaron Lindsay wrote:
>> > > > In some cases it may be helpful to modify state before saving it for
>> > > > migration, and then modify the state back after it has been saved. The
>> > > > existing pre_save function provides half of this functionality. This
>> > > > patch adds a post_save function to provide the second half.
>> > > > 
>> > > > Signed-off-by: Aaron Lindsay <aclindsa@gmail.com>
>> > > > ---
>> > > >  docs/devel/migration.rst    |  9 +++++++--
>> > > >  include/migration/vmstate.h |  1 +
>> > > >  migration/vmstate.c         | 10 +++++++++-
>> > > >  3 files changed, 17 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>> > > 
>> > > Hmm, maybe.  I believe the common practice is for pre_save to
>> > > copy state into a
>> > > separate member on the side, so that conversion back isn't necessary.
>> > > 
>> > > Ccing in the migration maintainers for a second opinion.
>> > 
>> > It is common to copy stuff into a separate member; however we do
>> > occasionally think that post_save would be a useful addition; so I think
>> > we should take it (if nothing else it actually makes stuff symmetric!).
>> > 
>> > Please make it return 'int' in the same way that pre_save/pre_load
>> > does, so that it can fail and stop the migration.
>> 
>> This patch calls post_save *even if the save operation fails*. My
>> reasoning was that I didn't want a failed migration to leave a
>> still-running original QEMU instance in an invalid state. Was this
>> misguided?
>
> That's fine - my only issue is that I want post_save to be able to fail
> itself even if pre_save failed.
>
>> If it was not, which error do you prefer to be returned from
>> vmstate_save_state_v() in the case that both the save operation itself
>> and the post_save call returned errors?
>
> The return value from the save operation.
> I did wonder about suggesting that you pass the return value from the
> save operation as a parameter to post_save.

The one from save.  In general, this one shouldn't be called, and if it
gets an error, we are really in big trouble, no?  By big treauble I mean
that we can basically only stop the guest?

Later, Juan.

>
> Dave
>
>> -Aaron
> --
> Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
To: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Cc: Aaron Lindsay <aclindsa@gmail.com>,
	Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	Wei Huang <wei@redhat.com>,
	Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Michael Spradling <mspradli@codeaurora.org>,
	Digant Desai <digantd@codeaurora.org>,
	Peter Crosthwaite <crosthwaite.peter@gmail.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Alistair Francis <alistair.francis@xilinx.com>,
	qemu-arm@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 03/14] migration: Add post_save function to VMStateDescription
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 14:07:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y3aw93p7.fsf@trasno.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181016140655.GI2426@work-vm> (David Alan Gilbert's message of "Tue, 16 Oct 2018 15:06:55 +0100")

"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com> wrote:
> * Aaron Lindsay (aclindsa@gmail.com) wrote:
>> On Oct 16 09:21, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
>> > * Richard Henderson (richard.henderson@linaro.org) wrote:
>> > > On 10/10/18 1:37 PM, Aaron Lindsay wrote:
>> > > > In some cases it may be helpful to modify state before saving it for
>> > > > migration, and then modify the state back after it has been saved. The
>> > > > existing pre_save function provides half of this functionality. This
>> > > > patch adds a post_save function to provide the second half.
>> > > > 
>> > > > Signed-off-by: Aaron Lindsay <aclindsa@gmail.com>
>> > > > ---
>> > > >  docs/devel/migration.rst    |  9 +++++++--
>> > > >  include/migration/vmstate.h |  1 +
>> > > >  migration/vmstate.c         | 10 +++++++++-
>> > > >  3 files changed, 17 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>> > > 
>> > > Hmm, maybe.  I believe the common practice is for pre_save to
>> > > copy state into a
>> > > separate member on the side, so that conversion back isn't necessary.
>> > > 
>> > > Ccing in the migration maintainers for a second opinion.
>> > 
>> > It is common to copy stuff into a separate member; however we do
>> > occasionally think that post_save would be a useful addition; so I think
>> > we should take it (if nothing else it actually makes stuff symmetric!).
>> > 
>> > Please make it return 'int' in the same way that pre_save/pre_load
>> > does, so that it can fail and stop the migration.
>> 
>> This patch calls post_save *even if the save operation fails*. My
>> reasoning was that I didn't want a failed migration to leave a
>> still-running original QEMU instance in an invalid state. Was this
>> misguided?
>
> That's fine - my only issue is that I want post_save to be able to fail
> itself even if pre_save failed.
>
>> If it was not, which error do you prefer to be returned from
>> vmstate_save_state_v() in the case that both the save operation itself
>> and the post_save call returned errors?
>
> The return value from the save operation.
> I did wonder about suggesting that you pass the return value from the
> save operation as a parameter to post_save.

The one from save.  In general, this one shouldn't be called, and if it
gets an error, we are really in big trouble, no?  By big treauble I mean
that we can basically only stop the guest?

Later, Juan.

>
> Dave
>
>> -Aaron
> --
> Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-10-17 12:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-10 20:37 [Qemu-arm] [PATCH v6 00/14] More fully implement ARM PMUv3 Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-10 20:37 ` [Qemu-devel] " Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-10 20:37 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH v6 01/14] target/arm: Mark PMINTENCLR and PMINTENCLR_EL1 accesses as possibly doing IO Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-10 20:37   ` [Qemu-devel] " Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-15 19:19   ` Richard Henderson
2018-10-10 20:37 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH v6 02/14] target/arm: Mask PMOVSR writes based on supported counters Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-10 20:37   ` [Qemu-devel] " Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-15 19:27   ` [Qemu-arm] " Richard Henderson
2018-10-15 19:27     ` Richard Henderson
2018-10-10 20:37 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH v6 03/14] migration: Add post_save function to VMStateDescription Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-10 20:37   ` [Qemu-devel] " Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-15 19:36   ` Richard Henderson
2018-10-15 19:36     ` Richard Henderson
2018-10-16  8:21     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-10-16  8:21       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-10-16 13:55       ` Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-16 13:55         ` Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-16 14:06         ` [Qemu-arm] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-10-16 14:06           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-10-16 14:41           ` [Qemu-arm] " Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-16 14:41             ` Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-16 14:43             ` [Qemu-arm] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-10-16 14:43               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-10-17 12:07           ` Juan Quintela [this message]
2018-10-17 12:07             ` Juan Quintela
2018-10-17 12:05     ` [Qemu-arm] " Juan Quintela
2018-10-17 12:05       ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2018-10-10 20:37 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH v6 04/14] target/arm: Swap PMU values before/after migrations Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-10 20:37   ` [Qemu-devel] " Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-15 19:45   ` [Qemu-arm] " Richard Henderson
2018-10-15 19:45     ` Richard Henderson
2018-10-15 20:44     ` [Qemu-arm] " Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-15 20:44       ` Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-10 20:37 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH v6 05/14] target/arm: Reorganize PMCCNTR accesses Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-10 20:37   ` [Qemu-devel] " Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-15 19:50   ` [Qemu-arm] " Richard Henderson
2018-10-15 19:50     ` Richard Henderson
2018-10-15 20:19     ` [Qemu-arm] " Richard Henderson
2018-10-15 20:19       ` Richard Henderson
2018-10-15 20:30       ` Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-15 20:30         ` Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-15 20:47         ` [Qemu-arm] " Richard Henderson
2018-10-15 20:47           ` Richard Henderson
2018-10-15 20:29     ` [Qemu-arm] " Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-15 20:29       ` Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-10 20:37 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH v6 06/14] target/arm: Filter cycle counter based on PMCCFILTR_EL0 Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-10 20:37   ` [Qemu-devel] " Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-15 20:51   ` [Qemu-arm] " Richard Henderson
2018-10-15 20:51     ` Richard Henderson
     [not found]     ` <20181016122542.GM3671@okra.localdomain>
2018-10-16 15:26       ` [Qemu-arm] " Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-16 15:26         ` Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-10 20:37 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH v6 07/14] target/arm: Allow AArch32 access for PMCCFILTR Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-10 20:37   ` [Qemu-devel] " Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-15 21:06   ` [Qemu-arm] " Richard Henderson
2018-10-15 21:06     ` Richard Henderson
2018-10-10 20:37 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH v6 08/14] target/arm: Implement PMOVSSET Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-10 20:37   ` [Qemu-devel] " Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-15 21:26   ` Richard Henderson
2018-10-10 20:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 09/14] target/arm: Add array for supported PMU events, generate PMCEID[01] Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-10 20:37   ` Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-15 21:35   ` [Qemu-arm] " Richard Henderson
2018-10-15 21:35     ` Richard Henderson
2018-10-16  9:55     ` [Qemu-arm] " Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-16  9:55       ` Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-10 20:37 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH v6 10/14] target/arm: Finish implementation of PM[X]EVCNTR and PM[X]EVTYPER Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-10 20:37   ` [Qemu-devel] " Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-17  0:02   ` [Qemu-arm] " Richard Henderson
2018-10-17  0:02     ` Richard Henderson
2018-10-10 20:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 11/14] target/arm: PMU: Add instruction and cycle events Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-10 20:37   ` Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-17  0:04   ` [Qemu-arm] " Richard Henderson
2018-10-17  0:04     ` Richard Henderson
2018-10-17 19:47     ` Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-17 19:47       ` Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-17 21:12       ` Richard Henderson
2018-10-17 21:12         ` Richard Henderson
2018-10-18 16:20         ` [Qemu-arm] " Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-18 16:20           ` Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-10 20:37 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH v6 12/14] target/arm: PMU: Set PMCR.N to 4 Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-10 20:37   ` [Qemu-devel] " Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-17  0:09   ` [Qemu-arm] " Richard Henderson
2018-10-17  0:09     ` Richard Henderson
2018-10-17 19:20     ` Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-17 19:20       ` Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-17 19:34       ` [Qemu-arm] " Richard Henderson
2018-10-17 19:34         ` Richard Henderson
2018-10-17 20:25         ` [Qemu-arm] " Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-17 20:25           ` Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-17 21:14           ` [Qemu-arm] " Richard Henderson
2018-10-17 21:14             ` Richard Henderson
2018-10-18 10:20             ` [Qemu-arm] " Peter Maydell
2018-10-18 10:20               ` Peter Maydell
2018-10-18 19:55             ` [Qemu-arm] " Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-18 19:55               ` Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-10 20:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 13/14] target/arm: Implement PMSWINC Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-10 20:37   ` Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-17  0:15   ` [Qemu-arm] " Richard Henderson
2018-10-17  0:15     ` Richard Henderson
2018-10-10 20:37 ` [Qemu-arm] [PATCH v6 14/14] target/arm: Send interrupts on PMU counter overflow Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-10 20:37   ` [Qemu-devel] " Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-16 12:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 00/14] More fully implement ARM PMUv3 Peter Maydell
2018-10-16 12:01   ` Peter Maydell
2018-10-16 12:46   ` [Qemu-arm] " Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-16 12:46     ` [Qemu-devel] " Aaron Lindsay
2018-10-16 17:29     ` [Qemu-arm] " Richard Henderson
2018-10-16 17:29       ` [Qemu-devel] " Richard Henderson

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