From: "Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@ventanamicro.com>
To: "Deepak Gupta" <debug@rivosinc.com>
Cc: "Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
"Borislav Petkov" <bp@alien8.de>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 19/28] riscv/ptrace: riscv cfi status and state via ptrace and in core files
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 08:22:56 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <D8LRI8WGXGVD.3B0VB9PCQ9I2R@ventanamicro.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKC1njQ8P2mNiiev-NDyTJPjJ6AAVqrtHMcwt_sc5A7Z+3-Jrg@mail.gmail.com>
2025-03-20T16:09:12-07:00, Deepak Gupta <debug@rivosinc.com>:
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 3:24 PM Radim Krčmář <rkrcmar@ventanamicro.com> wrote:
>> 2025-03-14T14:39:38-07:00, Deepak Gupta <debug@rivosinc.com>:
>> > Expose a new register type NT_RISCV_USER_CFI for risc-v cfi status and
>> > state. Intentionally both landing pad and shadow stack status and state
>> > are rolled into cfi state. Creating two different NT_RISCV_USER_XXX would
>> > not be useful and wastage of a note type. Enabling or disabling of feature
>> > is not allowed via ptrace set interface. However setting `elp` state or
>> > setting shadow stack pointer are allowed via ptrace set interface. It is
>> > expected `gdb` might have use to fixup `elp` state or `shadow stack`
>> > pointer.
>> >
>> > Signed-off-by: Deepak Gupta <debug@rivosinc.com>
>> > ---
>> > diff --git a/arch/riscv/include/uapi/asm/ptrace.h b/arch/riscv/include/uapi/asm/ptrace.h
>> > index 659ea3af5680..e6571fba8a8a 100644
>> > @@ -131,6 +131,24 @@ struct __sc_riscv_cfi_state {
>> > unsigned long ss_ptr; /* shadow stack pointer */
>> > };
>> >
>> > +struct __cfi_status {
>> > + /* indirect branch tracking state */
>> > + __u64 lp_en : 1;
>> > + __u64 lp_lock : 1;
>> > + __u64 elp_state : 1;
>> > +
>> > + /* shadow stack status */
>> > + __u64 shstk_en : 1;
>> > + __u64 shstk_lock : 1;
>>
>> I remember there was deep hatred towards bitfields in the Linux
>> community, have things changes?
>
> hmm. I didn't know about the strong hatred.
There is a good reason for it. :)
The C standard left important behavior as implementation-specific (by
mistake, I hope). I do like bitfields, but you have to be extra careful
when working with them.
> Although I can see lots of examples of this pattern in existing kernel code.
> No strong feelings on my side, I can change this and have it single 64bit field
> and accessed via bitmasks.
This is uapi and bitfields do not specify the internal representation.
A program compiled at a different time can see completely different
order of the bitfields, so the uapi would break.
We cannot use bitfields here.
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From: "Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@ventanamicro.com>
To: "Deepak Gupta" <debug@rivosinc.com>
Cc: "Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
"Borislav Petkov" <bp@alien8.de>,
"Dave Hansen" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>, <x86@kernel.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
"Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@suse.cz>,
"Lorenzo Stoakes" <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
"Paul Walmsley" <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
"Palmer Dabbelt" <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
"Albert Ou" <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
"Conor Dooley" <conor@kernel.org>,
"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
"Christian Brauner" <brauner@kernel.org>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 19/28] riscv/ptrace: riscv cfi status and state via ptrace and in core files
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 08:22:56 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <D8LRI8WGXGVD.3B0VB9PCQ9I2R@ventanamicro.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKC1njQ8P2mNiiev-NDyTJPjJ6AAVqrtHMcwt_sc5A7Z+3-Jrg@mail.gmail.com>
2025-03-20T16:09:12-07:00, Deepak Gupta <debug@rivosinc.com>:
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 3:24 PM Radim Krčmář <rkrcmar@ventanamicro.com> wrote:
>> 2025-03-14T14:39:38-07:00, Deepak Gupta <debug@rivosinc.com>:
>> > Expose a new register type NT_RISCV_USER_CFI for risc-v cfi status and
>> > state. Intentionally both landing pad and shadow stack status and state
>> > are rolled into cfi state. Creating two different NT_RISCV_USER_XXX would
>> > not be useful and wastage of a note type. Enabling or disabling of feature
>> > is not allowed via ptrace set interface. However setting `elp` state or
>> > setting shadow stack pointer are allowed via ptrace set interface. It is
>> > expected `gdb` might have use to fixup `elp` state or `shadow stack`
>> > pointer.
>> >
>> > Signed-off-by: Deepak Gupta <debug@rivosinc.com>
>> > ---
>> > diff --git a/arch/riscv/include/uapi/asm/ptrace.h b/arch/riscv/include/uapi/asm/ptrace.h
>> > index 659ea3af5680..e6571fba8a8a 100644
>> > @@ -131,6 +131,24 @@ struct __sc_riscv_cfi_state {
>> > unsigned long ss_ptr; /* shadow stack pointer */
>> > };
>> >
>> > +struct __cfi_status {
>> > + /* indirect branch tracking state */
>> > + __u64 lp_en : 1;
>> > + __u64 lp_lock : 1;
>> > + __u64 elp_state : 1;
>> > +
>> > + /* shadow stack status */
>> > + __u64 shstk_en : 1;
>> > + __u64 shstk_lock : 1;
>>
>> I remember there was deep hatred towards bitfields in the Linux
>> community, have things changes?
>
> hmm. I didn't know about the strong hatred.
There is a good reason for it. :)
The C standard left important behavior as implementation-specific (by
mistake, I hope). I do like bitfields, but you have to be extra careful
when working with them.
> Although I can see lots of examples of this pattern in existing kernel code.
> No strong feelings on my side, I can change this and have it single 64bit field
> and accessed via bitmasks.
This is uapi and bitfields do not specify the internal representation.
A program compiled at a different time can see completely different
order of the bitfields, so the uapi would break.
We cannot use bitfields here.
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2025-03-14 21:39 [PATCH v12 00/28] riscv control-flow integrity for usermode Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` [PATCH v12 01/28] mm: VM_SHADOW_STACK definition for riscv Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-07 15:45 ` Alexandre Ghiti
2025-04-07 15:45 ` Alexandre Ghiti
2025-03-14 21:39 ` [PATCH v12 02/28] dt-bindings: riscv: zicfilp and zicfiss in dt-bindings (extensions.yaml) Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` [PATCH v12 03/28] riscv: zicfiss / zicfilp enumeration Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-07 15:48 ` Alexandre Ghiti
2025-04-07 15:48 ` Alexandre Ghiti
2025-04-09 14:43 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-09 14:43 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` [PATCH v12 04/28] riscv: zicfiss / zicfilp extension csr and bit definitions Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` [PATCH v12 05/28] riscv: usercfi state for task and save/restore of CSR_SSP on trap entry/exit Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-08 8:05 ` Alexandre Ghiti
2025-04-08 8:05 ` Alexandre Ghiti
2025-04-10 11:04 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-04-10 11:04 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-04-24 0:00 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-24 0:00 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-24 11:52 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-04-24 11:52 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-04-24 17:56 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-24 17:56 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-25 11:27 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-04-25 11:27 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-04-24 0:23 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-24 0:23 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-24 12:16 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-04-24 12:16 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-04-24 18:03 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-24 18:03 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-25 11:32 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-04-25 11:32 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-03-14 21:39 ` [PATCH v12 06/28] riscv/mm : ensure PROT_WRITE leads to VM_READ | VM_WRITE Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-08 10:39 ` Alexandre Ghiti
2025-04-08 10:39 ` Alexandre Ghiti
2025-04-10 10:03 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-04-10 10:03 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-04-24 0:45 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-24 0:45 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-24 12:23 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-04-24 12:23 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-04-24 12:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-04-24 12:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-03-14 21:39 ` [PATCH v12 07/28] riscv mm: manufacture shadow stack pte Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` [PATCH v12 08/28] riscv mmu: teach pte_mkwrite to manufacture shadow stack PTEs Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` [PATCH v12 09/28] riscv mmu: write protect and shadow stack Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` [PATCH v12 10/28] riscv/mm: Implement map_shadow_stack() syscall Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-07 4:50 ` Zong Li
2025-04-07 4:50 ` Zong Li
2025-04-09 14:19 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-09 14:19 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-10 9:56 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-04-10 9:56 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-04-24 3:16 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-24 3:16 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-24 12:51 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-04-24 12:51 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-03-14 21:39 ` [PATCH v12 11/28] riscv/shstk: If needed allocate a new shadow stack on clone Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-08 10:51 ` Alexandre Ghiti
2025-04-08 10:51 ` Alexandre Ghiti
2025-04-09 14:31 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-09 14:31 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` [PATCH v12 12/28] riscv: Implements arch agnostic shadow stack prctls Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-03-17 1:29 ` Zong Li
2025-03-17 1:29 ` Zong Li
2025-04-10 9:45 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-04-10 9:45 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-04-24 4:44 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-24 4:44 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-24 13:36 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-04-24 13:36 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-04-24 18:16 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-24 18:16 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-25 11:42 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-04-25 11:42 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-04-25 16:39 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-25 16:39 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` [PATCH v12 13/28] prctl: arch-agnostic prctl for indirect branch tracking Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-03-17 1:29 ` Zong Li
2025-03-17 1:29 ` Zong Li
2025-04-09 8:03 ` Alexandre Ghiti
2025-04-09 8:03 ` Alexandre Ghiti
2025-04-09 14:26 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-09 14:26 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` [PATCH v12 14/28] riscv: Implements arch agnostic indirect branch tracking prctls Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-03-17 1:29 ` Zong Li
2025-03-17 1:29 ` Zong Li
2025-03-14 21:39 ` [PATCH v12 15/28] riscv/traps: Introduce software check exception Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` [PATCH v12 16/28] riscv: signal: abstract header saving for setup_sigcontext Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` [PATCH v12 17/28] riscv/signal: save and restore of shadow stack for signal Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-10 8:49 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-04-10 8:49 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-03-14 21:39 ` [PATCH v12 18/28] riscv/kernel: update __show_regs to print shadow stack register Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` [PATCH v12 19/28] riscv/ptrace: riscv cfi status and state via ptrace and in core files Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-03-20 22:24 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-03-20 22:24 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-03-20 23:09 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-03-20 23:09 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-03-21 7:22 ` Radim Krčmář [this message]
2025-03-21 7:22 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-03-14 21:39 ` [PATCH v12 20/28] riscv/hwprobe: zicfilp / zicfiss enumeration in hwprobe Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` [PATCH v12 21/28] riscv: Add Firmware Feature SBI extensions definitions Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` [PATCH v12 22/28] riscv: enable kernel access to shadow stack memory via FWFT sbi call Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-03-20 22:10 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-03-20 22:10 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-03-20 22:42 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-03-20 22:42 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-03-21 7:35 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-03-21 7:35 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-03-14 21:39 ` [PATCH v12 23/28] riscv: kernel command line option to opt out of user cfi Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-03-20 21:35 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-03-20 21:35 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-03-20 22:31 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-03-20 22:31 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-03-21 7:31 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-03-21 7:31 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-03-14 21:39 ` [PATCH v12 24/28] arch/riscv: compile vdso with landing pad Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-08 12:45 ` Alexandre Ghiti
2025-04-08 12:45 ` Alexandre Ghiti
2025-04-09 14:28 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-09 14:28 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` [PATCH v12 25/28] riscv: create a config for shadow stack and landing pad instr support Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-03-20 21:25 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-03-20 21:25 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-03-20 22:29 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-03-20 22:29 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-03-21 7:51 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-03-21 7:51 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-03-14 21:39 ` [PATCH v12 26/28] riscv: Documentation for landing pad / indirect branch tracking Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-08 8:36 ` Alexandre Ghiti
2025-04-08 8:36 ` Alexandre Ghiti
2025-03-14 21:39 ` [PATCH v12 27/28] riscv: Documentation for shadow stack on riscv Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-08 8:48 ` Alexandre Ghiti
2025-04-08 8:48 ` Alexandre Ghiti
2025-04-10 5:24 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-04-10 5:24 ` Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` [PATCH v12 28/28] kselftest/riscv: kselftest for user mode cfi Deepak Gupta
2025-03-14 21:39 ` Deepak Gupta
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