From: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
To: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.com>,
Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>, Ming Lei <ming.lei@gmail.com>,
neilb@suse.com, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@gmail.com>,
linux-block@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Bart van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] block: use static bio_set for bio_split() calls
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 13:48:01 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b884020e-ad18-199f-8377-89e3e42ae84c@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190425153627.GA9825@ming.t460p>
On 4/25/19 5:36 PM, Ming Lei wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 04:32:42PM +0200, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
>> On 4/25/19 2:41 AM, Ming Lei wrote:
>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 06:14:22AM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 10:20:46AM -0700, Sagi Grimberg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> per-queue bioset is used originally for avoiding deadlock, are you
>>>>>> sure the static bioset is safe?
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you explain this? I didn't find any indication of that in the change
>>>>> log history...
>>>>>
>>>>> Originally introduced by Kent:
>>>>
>>>> bio split can be run from stacking drivers, for example, MD over NVMe,
>>>> if the global reserved mempool is consumed by MD bio splitting, then
>>>> no any progress can be made when splitting on bio submitted to NVMe.
>>>>
>>>> Kent may have more details...
>>>
>>> I guess it might be fine to use one shared global bio_set for all
>>> lowest underlying queues, could be all queues except for loop, dm, md
>>> , drbd, bcache, ...
>>>
>> But wasn't the overall idea of stacking drivers that we propagate the queue
>> limits up to the uppermost drivers, so that we have to do a split only at
>> the upper layers?
>
> For example, LVM over RAID, the limits of LVM queue is figured out and fixed
> during creating LVM. However, new device may be added to the RAID. Then the
> underlying queue's limit may not be propagated to LVM's queue's limit.
>
> And we did discuss the topic of 'block: dm: restack queue_limits'
> before, looks not see any progress made.
>
> Also loop doesn't consider stack limits at all.
>
>> Furthermore, it's not every bio which needs to be split, only those which
>> straddle some device limitations.
>> The only ones not being able to propagate the queue limits is MD, and that
>> is already using a private bio_set here.
>
> If DM and the lowest queue share one same bio_set(mem_pool), it isn't
> enough for MD to use private bio_set.
>
Ah, right. I've reviewed the patches implementing the per-queue biosets,
and indeed we'll need to use them.
But meanwhile I've found another way of circumventing this issue, so
this patch can be dropped.
Cheers,
Hannes
--
Dr. Hannes Reinecke Teamlead Storage & Networking
hare@suse.de +49 911 74053 688
SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg
GF: Felix Imendörffer, Mary Higgins, Sri Rasiah
HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg)
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From: hare@suse.de (Hannes Reinecke)
Subject: [PATCH] block: use static bio_set for bio_split() calls
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 13:48:01 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b884020e-ad18-199f-8377-89e3e42ae84c@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190425153627.GA9825@ming.t460p>
On 4/25/19 5:36 PM, Ming Lei wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019@04:32:42PM +0200, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
>> On 4/25/19 2:41 AM, Ming Lei wrote:
>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019@06:14:22AM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019@10:20:46AM -0700, Sagi Grimberg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> per-queue bioset is used originally for avoiding deadlock, are you
>>>>>> sure the static bioset is safe?
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you explain this? I didn't find any indication of that in the change
>>>>> log history...
>>>>>
>>>>> Originally introduced by Kent:
>>>>
>>>> bio split can be run from stacking drivers, for example, MD over NVMe,
>>>> if the global reserved mempool is consumed by MD bio splitting, then
>>>> no any progress can be made when splitting on bio submitted to NVMe.
>>>>
>>>> Kent may have more details...
>>>
>>> I guess it might be fine to use one shared global bio_set for all
>>> lowest underlying queues, could be all queues except for loop, dm, md
>>> , drbd, bcache, ...
>>>
>> But wasn't the overall idea of stacking drivers that we propagate the queue
>> limits up to the uppermost drivers, so that we have to do a split only at
>> the upper layers?
>
> For example, LVM over RAID, the limits of LVM queue is figured out and fixed
> during creating LVM. However, new device may be added to the RAID. Then the
> underlying queue's limit may not be propagated to LVM's queue's limit.
>
> And we did discuss the topic of 'block: dm: restack queue_limits'
> before, looks not see any progress made.
>
> Also loop doesn't consider stack limits at all.
>
>> Furthermore, it's not every bio which needs to be split, only those which
>> straddle some device limitations.
>> The only ones not being able to propagate the queue limits is MD, and that
>> is already using a private bio_set here.
>
> If DM and the lowest queue share one same bio_set(mem_pool), it isn't
> enough for MD to use private bio_set.
>
Ah, right. I've reviewed the patches implementing the per-queue biosets,
and indeed we'll need to use them.
But meanwhile I've found another way of circumventing this issue, so
this patch can be dropped.
Cheers,
Hannes
--
Dr. Hannes Reinecke Teamlead Storage & Networking
hare at suse.de +49 911 74053 688
SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 N?rnberg
GF: Felix Imend?rffer, Mary Higgins, Sri Rasiah
HRB 21284 (AG N?rnberg)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-04-30 11:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-04-18 14:06 [PATCH] block: use static bio_set for bio_split() calls Hannes Reinecke
2019-04-18 14:06 ` Hannes Reinecke
2019-04-18 14:34 ` Ming Lei
2019-04-18 14:34 ` Ming Lei
2019-04-18 15:02 ` Hannes Reinecke
2019-04-18 15:02 ` Hannes Reinecke
2019-04-18 18:26 ` Edmund Nadolski (Microsoft)
2019-04-18 18:26 ` Edmund Nadolski (Microsoft)
2019-04-24 17:20 ` Sagi Grimberg
2019-04-24 17:20 ` Sagi Grimberg
2019-04-24 18:56 ` Hannes Reinecke
2019-04-24 18:56 ` Hannes Reinecke
2019-04-24 18:58 ` Sagi Grimberg
2019-04-24 18:58 ` Sagi Grimberg
2019-04-24 22:14 ` Ming Lei
2019-04-24 22:14 ` Ming Lei
2019-04-25 0:41 ` Ming Lei
2019-04-25 0:41 ` Ming Lei
2019-04-25 14:32 ` Hannes Reinecke
2019-04-25 14:32 ` Hannes Reinecke
2019-04-25 15:36 ` Ming Lei
2019-04-25 15:36 ` Ming Lei
2019-04-30 11:48 ` Hannes Reinecke [this message]
2019-04-30 11:48 ` Hannes Reinecke
2019-04-24 19:49 ` Bart Van Assche
2019-04-24 19:49 ` Bart Van Assche
2019-04-25 6:06 ` Hannes Reinecke
2019-04-25 6:06 ` Hannes Reinecke
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