From: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
To: Oleksii Kurochko <oleksii.kurochko@gmail.com>
Cc: "Romain Caritey" <Romain.Caritey@microchip.com>,
"Alistair Francis" <alistair.francis@wdc.com>,
"Connor Davis" <connojdavis@gmail.com>,
"Andrew Cooper" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
"Anthony PERARD" <anthony.perard@vates.tech>,
"Michal Orzel" <michal.orzel@amd.com>,
"Julien Grall" <julien@xen.org>,
"Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>,
"Stefano Stabellini" <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 14/27] xen/riscv: introduce per-vCPU IMSIC state
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2026 10:29:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f4022635-ffd6-40c0-a537-9bc9dc4e0f2b@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9bee01f5-8275-4d8e-b217-1b2d2f8fa2e8@gmail.com>
On 17.04.2026 15:47, Oleksii Kurochko wrote:
> On 4/16/26 2:31 PM, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> On 14.04.2026 11:22, Oleksii Kurochko wrote:
>>> On 4/2/26 1:31 PM, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 10.03.2026 18:08, Oleksii Kurochko wrote:
>>>>> --- a/xen/arch/riscv/imsic.c
>>>>> +++ b/xen/arch/riscv/imsic.c
>>>>> @@ -59,6 +59,29 @@ do { \
>>>>> csr_clear(CSR_SIREG, v); \
>>>>> } while (0)
>>>>>
>>>>> +unsigned int vcpu_guest_file_id(const struct vcpu *v)
>>>>> +{
>>>>> + struct imsic_state *imsic_state = v->arch.imsic_state;
>>>>> + unsigned long flags;
>>>>> + unsigned int vsfile_id;
>>>>> +
>>>>> + read_lock_irqsave(&imsic_state->vsfile_lock, flags);
>>>>> + vsfile_id = imsic_state->guest_file_id;
>>>>> + read_unlock_irqrestore(&imsic_state->vsfile_lock, flags);
>>>>
>>>> What purpose does this locking have? Already ...
>>>>
>>>>> + return vsfile_id;
>>>>
>>>> ... here the value can be stale, if indeed there is a chance of races.
>>>> Did you perhaps mean to use ACCESS_ONCE() here and where the value is
>>>> set?
>>>
>>> ACCESS_ONCE() isn't guarantee only compiler re-ordering (as basically it
>>> is just volatile-related stuff inisde the macros)?
>>>
>>> Generally, I think that that guest_file_id is needed to be updated only
>>> during migration of vCPU from one pCPU to another and I expect that
>>> during this migration vCPU isn't active, so no one will want to read
>>> imsic_state->guest_file_id. But on the other hand, there is:
>>> bool imsic_has_interrupt(const struct vcpu *vcpu)
>>> {
>>> ...
>>> /*
>>> * The IMSIC SW-file directly injects interrupt via hvip so
>>> * only check for interrupt when IMSIC VS-file is being used.
>>> */
>>>
>>> read_lock_irqsave(&imsic_state->vsfile_lock, flags);
>>> if ( imsic_state->vsfile_pcpu != NR_CPUS )
>>> ret = !!(csr_read(CSR_HGEIP) & BIT(imsic_state->guest_file_id,
>>> UL));
>>> read_unlock_irqrestore(&imsic_state->vsfile_lock, flags);
>>> ...
>>> }
>>> which I think could be called in parallel with with migration, so then
>>> still lock are needed.
>>
>> None of this addresses my pointing out that the returned value will be
>> stale by the point the caller gets to look at it.
>
> Yes, I agree that lock in vcpu_guest_file_id() is useless and it should
> be on the caller side and used for the whole IMSIC state access. But ...
>
>> Which in turn raises
>> said question about the use of a lock. If you read
>> imsic_state->guest_file_id atomically (i.e. excluding tearing of reads),
>> the value seen / used will be stale as with the lock in use. Unless of
>> course there's yet another aspect hidden somewhere in what is not being
>> explained.
>
> ... I am not sure that I get this part.
>
> If I am somewhere in migration code where I took write lock to update
> imsic state (and of course ->guest_file_id as part of it) then if
> someone else in parallel calls imsic_has_interrupt() then it won't enter
> critical section where ->guest_file_id is trying to be read so no stale
> ->guest_file_id will be read.
Well, hence why I said "Unless of course there's yet another aspect hidden
somewhere in what is not being explained." If I don't know the full
picture, I can't very well judge whether a lock is needed, or whether ...
> Then does it make sense to use ACCESS_ONCE() during read and write of
> ->guest_file_id in such use cases?
... ACCESS_ONCE() would be enough.
Jan
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2026-03-10 17:08 ` [PATCH v1 02/27] xen/riscv: Implement construct_domain() Oleksii Kurochko
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2026-04-09 11:26 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-09 12:58 ` Jan Beulich
2026-04-09 13:39 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-09 14:01 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-14 6:26 ` Julien Grall
2026-03-10 17:08 ` [PATCH v1 03/27] xen/riscv: implement prerequisites for domain_create() Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-01 12:57 ` Jan Beulich
2026-04-09 11:55 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-03-10 17:08 ` [PATCH v1 04/27] xen/riscv: rework G-stage mode handling Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-01 13:19 ` Jan Beulich
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2026-04-07 13:43 ` Jan Beulich
2026-03-10 17:08 ` [PATCH v1 05/27] xen/riscv: introduce guest riscv,isa string Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-01 13:49 ` Jan Beulich
2026-04-10 10:24 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-10 10:50 ` Jan Beulich
2026-03-10 17:08 ` [PATCH v1 06/27] xen/riscv: implement make_cpus_node() Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-01 14:11 ` Jan Beulich
2026-04-10 11:19 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-10 12:02 ` Jan Beulich
2026-03-10 17:08 ` [PATCH v1 07/27] xen/riscv: implement make_timer_node() Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-01 14:24 ` Jan Beulich
2026-04-10 11:54 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-03-10 17:08 ` [PATCH v1 08/27] xen/riscv: implement make_arch_nodes() Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-01 14:29 ` Jan Beulich
2026-04-10 13:32 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-03-10 17:08 ` [PATCH v1 09/27] xen/riscv: implement make_intc_domU_node() Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-01 14:38 ` Jan Beulich
2026-04-10 14:00 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-10 14:23 ` Jan Beulich
2026-03-10 17:08 ` [PATCH v1 10/27] xen/riscv: generate IMSIC DT node for guest domains Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-01 15:05 ` Jan Beulich
2026-04-10 15:40 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-16 11:42 ` Jan Beulich
2026-04-17 8:10 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-17 13:50 ` Jan Beulich
2026-04-17 14:01 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-17 14:10 ` Jan Beulich
2026-03-10 17:08 ` [PATCH v1 11/27] xen/riscv: create APLIC " Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-01 15:16 ` Jan Beulich
2026-04-13 8:43 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-13 8:48 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-16 11:49 ` Jan Beulich
2026-04-17 9:01 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-17 13:53 ` Jan Beulich
2026-04-17 14:27 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-03-10 17:08 ` [PATCH v1 12/27] xen/riscv: introduce aia_init() and aia_available() Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-02 9:00 ` Jan Beulich
2026-04-13 9:32 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-16 12:06 ` Jan Beulich
2026-04-17 9:37 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-03-10 17:08 ` [PATCH v1 13/27] xen/riscv: add basic VGEIN management for AIA guests Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-02 10:03 ` Jan Beulich
2026-04-13 14:42 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-16 12:21 ` Jan Beulich
2026-04-17 11:34 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-17 14:07 ` Jan Beulich
2026-04-20 7:52 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-03-10 17:08 ` [PATCH v1 14/27] xen/riscv: introduce per-vCPU IMSIC state Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-02 11:31 ` Jan Beulich
2026-04-14 9:22 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-16 12:31 ` Jan Beulich
2026-04-17 13:47 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-20 8:29 ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2026-04-16 12:31 ` Jan Beulich
2026-03-10 17:08 ` [PATCH v1 15/27] xen/riscv: add very early virtual APLIC (vAPLIC) initialization support Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-02 11:58 ` Jan Beulich
2026-04-14 10:27 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-16 12:42 ` Jan Beulich
2026-04-20 10:25 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-20 10:47 ` Jan Beulich
2026-03-10 17:08 ` [PATCH v1 16/27] xen/riscv: implement IRQ mapping for device passthrough Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-02 12:22 ` Jan Beulich
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2026-04-16 12:51 ` Jan Beulich
2026-04-20 11:39 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-20 13:45 ` Jan Beulich
2026-04-20 14:34 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-20 15:21 ` Jan Beulich
2026-04-20 15:31 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-03-10 17:08 ` [PATCH v1 17/27] xen/riscv: add missing APLIC register offsets, masks to asm/aplic.h Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-02 12:51 ` Jan Beulich
2026-04-14 11:42 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-03-10 17:08 ` [PATCH v1 18/27] xen/riscv: add vaplic access check Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-02 13:10 ` Jan Beulich
2026-04-14 11:45 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-15 7:35 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-16 13:01 ` Jan Beulich
2026-04-20 11:53 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-20 12:03 ` Jan Beulich
2026-03-10 17:08 ` [PATCH v1 19/27] xen/riscv: emulate guest writes to virtual APLIC MMIO Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-02 14:18 ` Jan Beulich
2026-04-14 16:04 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-16 13:19 ` Jan Beulich
2026-04-20 15:02 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-20 15:27 ` Jan Beulich
2026-03-10 17:08 ` [PATCH v1 20/27] xen/riscv: emulate guest reads from " Oleksii Kurochko
2026-03-10 17:08 ` [PATCH v1 21/27] xen/riscv: introduce (de)initialization helpers for vINTC Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-02 14:58 ` Jan Beulich
2026-04-15 7:50 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-16 13:23 ` Jan Beulich
2026-03-10 17:08 ` [PATCH v1 22/27] xen/riscv: implement init_intc_phandle() Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-02 15:00 ` Jan Beulich
2026-03-10 17:08 ` [PATCH v1 23/27] xen/riscv: call do_initcalls() in start_xen() Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-02 15:01 ` Jan Beulich
2026-03-10 17:08 ` [PATCH v1 24/27] xen/riscv: init rcu Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-02 15:03 ` Jan Beulich
2026-04-14 11:50 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-03-10 17:08 ` [PATCH v1 25/27] xen/riscv: setup system domains Oleksii Kurochko
2026-03-10 17:08 ` [PATCH v1 26/27] xen/riscv: provide init_vuart() Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-07 13:52 ` Jan Beulich
2026-03-10 17:09 ` [PATCH v1 27/27] xen/riscv: add initial dom0less infrastructure support Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-07 14:11 ` Jan Beulich
2026-04-15 10:00 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-04-16 14:13 ` Jan Beulich
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