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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Peter Ziljstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sebastian Sewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: uprobe splat in PREEMP_RT
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 12:33:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250402103326.GD22091@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEf4BzbVmUfDVEs1ndy5hr2YYA5xgt7NODjNhy4x+Syfbr1yaA@mail.gmail.com>

On 04/01, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 2:21 PM Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hmm,
> >
> >         write_seqcount_begin(&utask->ri_seqcount);
> >
> >         for_each_ret_instance_rcu(ri, utask->return_instances)
> >                 hprobe_expire(&ri->hprobe, false);
> >
> >         write_seqcount_end(&utask->ri_seqcount);
> >
> > How big can that loop be?
> >
> > Of course, we could just say not to use uprobes on PREEMPT_RT kernels?
> > Otherwise, they could cause an unspecified latency.
>
> There can't be more than 64 nested uretprobes, so it will be (in a
> very-very unlikely event) at most 64 items. And that hprobe_expire()
> operation is very fast. So I don't think latency is a big concert
> here.

I still didn't read this code, but after the quick glance I don't
understand why do we actually need utask->ri_seqcount.

The "writer" ri_timer() can't race with itself, right?

The "reader" free_ret_instance() uses raw_seqcount_try_begin() without
the "retry" logic.

I have no idea if this logic is correct or not, but it seems that (apart
from the necessary barriers) we could use the utask->ri_timer_is_running
boolean instead with the same effect? Set/cleared in ri_timer(), checked
in free_ret_instance().

I must have missed something...

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-02 10:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-01 21:04 uprobe splat in PREEMP_RT Alexei Starovoitov
2025-04-01 21:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-01 22:01   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-04-02 10:33     ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2025-04-02 10:57       ` Sebastian Sewior
2025-04-02 11:23         ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-02 12:13           ` Sebastian Sewior
2025-04-02 12:18             ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-02 12:24               ` Sebastian Sewior
2025-04-02 14:12                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-03  7:37                   ` Sebastian Sewior
2025-04-03 12:27                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-03 16:04                       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-04-02 16:15       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-04-02 16:57         ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-02 12:21     ` Sebastian Sewior
2025-04-02  9:10 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-02 10:54   ` Sebastian Sewior
2025-04-02 11:20     ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-02 11:31       ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-02 12:06         ` Sebastian Sewior
2025-04-02 12:12           ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-02 12:16             ` Sebastian Sewior
2025-04-02 13:56               ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-02 14:23                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-03  9:08                   ` Sebastian Sewior
2025-04-03 12:11                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-03 12:43                       ` Oleg Nesterov

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