From: Sebastian Sewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Peter Ziljstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: uprobe splat in PREEMP_RT
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 14:21:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250402122158.j_8VoHQ-@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEf4BzbVmUfDVEs1ndy5hr2YYA5xgt7NODjNhy4x+Syfbr1yaA@mail.gmail.com>
On 2025-04-01 15:01:55 [-0700], Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> So, write_seqcount_begin()'s documentation states:
>
> /**
> * write_seqcount_begin() - start a seqcount_t write side critical section
> * @s: Pointer to seqcount_t or any of the seqcount_LOCKNAME_t variants
> *
> * Context: sequence counter write side sections must be serialized and
> * non-preemptible. Preemption will be automatically disabled if and
> * only if the seqcount write serialization lock is associated, and
> * preemptible. If readers can be invoked from hardirq or softirq
> * context, interrupts or bottom halves must be respectively disabled.
> */
>
>
> In our case we cannot have readers invoked from hardirq/softirq. It's
> the writer that can be invoked from hardirq (timer).
>
> So what did I do incorrectly here? Should I still disable hardirqs
> just to satisfy that seqprop_assert()?
You don't have a lock associated with the seqcount. The writer side
ensure that there can only be one writer because the timer can only fire
once.
The reader side uses raw_seqcount_try_begin() so it does not require the
writer to make progress. Meaning if it preempts the writer then it will
continue and make progress.
If these conditions remain, why not
s/write_seqcount_begin/raw_write_seqcount_begin// ? This would avoid the
checks as per "I know best" and I don't have a reason why a lock would
make sense to exclude multiple writers.
> Peter, any opinion?
Sebastian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-02 12:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-01 21:04 uprobe splat in PREEMP_RT Alexei Starovoitov
2025-04-01 21:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-01 22:01 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-04-02 10:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-02 10:57 ` Sebastian Sewior
2025-04-02 11:23 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-02 12:13 ` Sebastian Sewior
2025-04-02 12:18 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-02 12:24 ` Sebastian Sewior
2025-04-02 14:12 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-03 7:37 ` Sebastian Sewior
2025-04-03 12:27 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-03 16:04 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-04-02 16:15 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-04-02 16:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-02 12:21 ` Sebastian Sewior [this message]
2025-04-02 9:10 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-02 10:54 ` Sebastian Sewior
2025-04-02 11:20 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-02 11:31 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-02 12:06 ` Sebastian Sewior
2025-04-02 12:12 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-02 12:16 ` Sebastian Sewior
2025-04-02 13:56 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-02 14:23 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-03 9:08 ` Sebastian Sewior
2025-04-03 12:11 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-03 12:43 ` Oleg Nesterov
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