From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Sebastian Sewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
Peter Ziljstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: uprobe splat in PREEMP_RT
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 13:31:43 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250402113142.GG22091@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250402112007.GE22091@redhat.com>
On 04/02, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>
> On 04/02, Sebastian Sewior wrote:
> >
> > On 2025-04-02 11:10:45 [+0200], Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > > Add Peter.
> > >
> > > I never understood why __seqprop_preemptible() returns false.
> > > Stupid question, perhaps
> > >
> > > --- x/include/linux/seqlock.h
> > > +++ x/include/linux/seqlock.h
> > > @@ -213,12 +213,11 @@ static inline unsigned __seqprop_sequenc
> > >
> > > static inline bool __seqprop_preemptible(const seqcount_t *s)
> > > {
> > > - return false;
> > > + return true;
> > > }
> > >
> > > static inline void __seqprop_assert(const seqcount_t *s)
> > > {
> > > - lockdep_assert_preemption_disabled();
> > > }
> > >
> > > #define __SEQ_RT IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT)
> > >
> > > makes more sense?
> > >
> > > Then we can remove the no longer necessary preempt_disable()'s
> > > before write_seqcount_begin() in other users of seqcount_t.
> >
> > This depends on locktype that is coupled with the seqcount.
>
> Yes.
>
> But seqcount_t doesn't have the "internal" lock. Unlike other
> seqcount's defined by SEQCOUNT_LOCKNAME().
>
> > If the lock disables preemption and relies on it then it must be somehow
> > enforced on PREEMPT_RT or rely on the lock+unlock mechnanism to avoid
> > deadlocks. Also it needs to be ensured that you don't have two writer
> > since preemption is allowed.
>
> Sorry, I don't understand.
>
> Again, seqcount_t differs, it can't do lock+unlock like (say)
> seqcount_spinlock_t.
IOW.
I understand that seqcount_t is not RT-friendly, but why exactly do
you think the patch above can make the things worse?
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-02 11:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-01 21:04 uprobe splat in PREEMP_RT Alexei Starovoitov
2025-04-01 21:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-04-01 22:01 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-04-02 10:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-02 10:57 ` Sebastian Sewior
2025-04-02 11:23 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-02 12:13 ` Sebastian Sewior
2025-04-02 12:18 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-02 12:24 ` Sebastian Sewior
2025-04-02 14:12 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-03 7:37 ` Sebastian Sewior
2025-04-03 12:27 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-03 16:04 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-04-02 16:15 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-04-02 16:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-02 12:21 ` Sebastian Sewior
2025-04-02 9:10 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-02 10:54 ` Sebastian Sewior
2025-04-02 11:20 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-02 11:31 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2025-04-02 12:06 ` Sebastian Sewior
2025-04-02 12:12 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-02 12:16 ` Sebastian Sewior
2025-04-02 13:56 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-02 14:23 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-03 9:08 ` Sebastian Sewior
2025-04-03 12:11 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-03 12:43 ` Oleg Nesterov
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