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From: "Thomas Hellström" <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>
To: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 09/15] drm/ttm, drm/amdgpu: Allow the driver some control over swapping
Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 18:07:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <334dc2d2-2053-9e42-62be-58784e4256aa@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fb9a4898-5844-c1e5-7a24-cb50a9ad6df7@amd.com>


On 5/18/21 5:42 PM, Christian König wrote:
> Am 18.05.21 um 17:38 schrieb Thomas Hellström:
>>
>> On 5/18/21 5:28 PM, Christian König wrote:
>>> Am 18.05.21 um 17:20 schrieb Thomas Hellström:
>>>>
>>>> On 5/18/21 5:18 PM, Christian König wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 18.05.21 um 17:15 schrieb Thomas Hellström:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/18/21 10:26 AM, Thomas Hellström wrote:
>>>>>>> We are calling the eviction_valuable driver callback at eviction 
>>>>>>> time to
>>>>>>> determine whether we actually can evict a buffer object.
>>>>>>> The upcoming i915 TTM backend needs the same functionality for 
>>>>>>> swapout,
>>>>>>> and that might actually be beneficial to other drivers as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Add an eviction_valuable call also in the swapout path. Try to 
>>>>>>> keep the
>>>>>>> current behaviour for all drivers by returning true if the 
>>>>>>> buffer object
>>>>>>> is already in the TTM_PL_SYSTEM placement. We change behaviour 
>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>> case where a buffer object is in a TT backed placement when 
>>>>>>> swapped out,
>>>>>>> in which case the drivers normal eviction_valuable path is run.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Finally export ttm_tt_unpopulate() and don't swap out bos
>>>>>>> that are not populated. This allows a driver to purge a bo at
>>>>>>> swapout time if its content is no longer valuable rather than to
>>>>>>> have TTM swap the contents out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cc: Christian König <christian.koenig@amd.com>
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Thomas Hellström <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Christian,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here we have a ttm_tt_unpopulate() export as well at the end. I 
>>>>>> figure you will push back on that one. What we really need is a 
>>>>>> functionality to just drop the bo contents and end up in system 
>>>>>> memory unpopulated. Should I perhaps add a utility function to do 
>>>>>> that instead? like ttm_bo_purge()?
>>>>>
>>>>> We already have that. Just call ttm_bo_validate() without any 
>>>>> place to put the buffer.
>>>>>
>>>>> See how ttm_bo_pipeline_gutting() is used.
>>>>>
>>>>> Christian.
>>>>
>>>> OK, so is that reentrant from the move() or swap_notify() callback.
>>>
>>> That sounds like a design bug to me since you should never need to 
>>> do this.
>>>
>>> When you want to destroy the backing store of a buffer during 
>>> eviction you should just do this by returning an empty placement 
>>> from the evict_flags callback.
>>
>> So this is for the functionality where the user has indicated that 
>> the contents is no longer of value, but the buffer itself
>> is cached until evicted or swapped out for performance reasons. So 
>> the above would work for eviction, but what about swapout. Could we 
>> add some similar functionality there?
>
> Amdgpu has the same functionality and you don't need to handle swap at 
> all.
>
> Just return from the evict_flags that you want to drop the backing 
> store as soon as the BO leaves the GTT domain.

Hmm, the pipeline_gutting function seems ok, but overly complex if the 
bo is already idle, Am I allowed to optimize it slightly for the latter 
case?

/Thomas


>
> Christian.
>
>>
>> /Thomas
>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Christian.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> /Thomas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-18 16:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-18  8:26 [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 00/15] drm/i915: Move LMEM (VRAM) management over to TTM Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18  8:26 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 01/15] drm/i915: Untangle the vma pages_mutex Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18 11:12   ` Maarten Lankhorst
2021-05-18 11:28     ` Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18  8:26 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 02/15] drm/i915: Don't free shared locks while shared Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18 11:18   ` Maarten Lankhorst
2021-05-18 11:30     ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2021-05-18  8:26 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 03/15] drm/i915: Fix i915_sg_page_sizes to record dma segments rather than physical pages Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18  8:46   ` Matthew Auld
2021-05-18  8:26 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 04/15] drm/ttm: Export functions to initialize and finalize the ttm range manager standalone Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18  9:03   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-05-18 11:51   ` Christian König
2021-05-18 13:06     ` Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18 13:11       ` Christian König
2021-05-18  8:26 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 05/15] drm/i915/ttm Initialize the ttm device and memory managers Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18  9:05   ` Matthew Auld
2021-05-18  9:09   ` Matthew Auld
2021-05-18  9:12     ` Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18  8:26 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 06/15] drm/i915/ttm: Embed a ttm buffer object in the i915 gem object Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18 11:44   ` Maarten Lankhorst
2021-05-18  8:26 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 07/15] drm/ttm: Export ttm_bo_tt_destroy() Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18 11:46   ` Maarten Lankhorst
2021-05-18 12:01   ` Christian König
2021-05-18  8:26 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 08/15] drm/i915/ttm Add a generic TTM memcpy move for page-based iomem Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18 11:55   ` Christian König
2021-05-18 12:04     ` Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18 12:09       ` Christian König
2021-05-18 12:52         ` Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18 13:08           ` Christian König
2021-05-18 13:24             ` Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18 13:26               ` Christian König
2021-05-18  8:26 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 09/15] drm/ttm, drm/amdgpu: Allow the driver some control over swapping Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18 12:19   ` Maarten Lankhorst
2021-05-18 15:15   ` Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18 15:18     ` Christian König
2021-05-18 15:20       ` Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18 15:28         ` Christian König
2021-05-18 15:38           ` Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18 15:42             ` Christian König
2021-05-18 16:07               ` Thomas Hellström [this message]
2021-05-18 16:30                 ` Christian König
2021-05-19  6:27                   ` Thomas Hellström
2021-05-19 10:43                     ` Christian König
2021-05-18  8:26 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 10/15] drm/i915/ttm: Introduce a TTM i915 gem object backend Thomas Hellström
2021-05-19  9:53   ` Matthew Auld
2021-05-19 11:29     ` Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18  8:26 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 11/15] drm/i915/lmem: Verify checks for lmem residency Thomas Hellström
2021-05-19 10:04   ` Matthew Auld
2021-05-18  8:26 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 12/15] drm/i915: Disable mmap ioctl for gen12+ Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18  8:41   ` Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18  8:26 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 13/15] drm/ttm: Add BO and offset arguments for vm_access and vm_fault ttm handlers Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18  8:59   ` Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18 11:59     ` Christian König
2021-05-18 14:59       ` Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18  8:27 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 14/15] drm/i915: Use ttm mmap handling for ttm bo's Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18  9:17   ` Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18  8:27 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 15/15] drm/i915/ttm: Add io sgt caching to i915_ttm_io_mem_pfn Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18  9:33   ` Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18  8:44 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.CHECKPATCH: warning for drm/i915: Move LMEM (VRAM) management over to TTM (rev2) Patchwork
2021-05-18  8:47 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.SPARSE: " Patchwork
2021-05-18  9:14 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.BAT: failure " Patchwork
2021-05-18 17:02 ` [Intel-gfx] ✓ Fi.CI.IGT: success " Patchwork

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