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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: "Thomas Hellström" <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>,
	intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 09/15] drm/ttm, drm/amdgpu: Allow the driver some control over swapping
Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 18:30:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a627f340-492e-c2cd-f805-8fafdca8eb60@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <334dc2d2-2053-9e42-62be-58784e4256aa@linux.intel.com>

Am 18.05.21 um 18:07 schrieb Thomas Hellström:
>
> On 5/18/21 5:42 PM, Christian König wrote:
>> Am 18.05.21 um 17:38 schrieb Thomas Hellström:
>>>
>>> On 5/18/21 5:28 PM, Christian König wrote:
>>>> Am 18.05.21 um 17:20 schrieb Thomas Hellström:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/18/21 5:18 PM, Christian König wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 18.05.21 um 17:15 schrieb Thomas Hellström:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/18/21 10:26 AM, Thomas Hellström wrote:
>>>>>>>> We are calling the eviction_valuable driver callback at 
>>>>>>>> eviction time to
>>>>>>>> determine whether we actually can evict a buffer object.
>>>>>>>> The upcoming i915 TTM backend needs the same functionality for 
>>>>>>>> swapout,
>>>>>>>> and that might actually be beneficial to other drivers as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Add an eviction_valuable call also in the swapout path. Try to 
>>>>>>>> keep the
>>>>>>>> current behaviour for all drivers by returning true if the 
>>>>>>>> buffer object
>>>>>>>> is already in the TTM_PL_SYSTEM placement. We change behaviour 
>>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>>> case where a buffer object is in a TT backed placement when 
>>>>>>>> swapped out,
>>>>>>>> in which case the drivers normal eviction_valuable path is run.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Finally export ttm_tt_unpopulate() and don't swap out bos
>>>>>>>> that are not populated. This allows a driver to purge a bo at
>>>>>>>> swapout time if its content is no longer valuable rather than to
>>>>>>>> have TTM swap the contents out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cc: Christian König <christian.koenig@amd.com>
>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Thomas Hellström <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Christian,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here we have a ttm_tt_unpopulate() export as well at the end. I 
>>>>>>> figure you will push back on that one. What we really need is a 
>>>>>>> functionality to just drop the bo contents and end up in system 
>>>>>>> memory unpopulated. Should I perhaps add a utility function to 
>>>>>>> do that instead? like ttm_bo_purge()?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We already have that. Just call ttm_bo_validate() without any 
>>>>>> place to put the buffer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See how ttm_bo_pipeline_gutting() is used.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Christian.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, so is that reentrant from the move() or swap_notify() callback.
>>>>
>>>> That sounds like a design bug to me since you should never need to 
>>>> do this.
>>>>
>>>> When you want to destroy the backing store of a buffer during 
>>>> eviction you should just do this by returning an empty placement 
>>>> from the evict_flags callback.
>>>
>>> So this is for the functionality where the user has indicated that 
>>> the contents is no longer of value, but the buffer itself
>>> is cached until evicted or swapped out for performance reasons. So 
>>> the above would work for eviction, but what about swapout. Could we 
>>> add some similar functionality there?
>>
>> Amdgpu has the same functionality and you don't need to handle swap 
>> at all.
>>
>> Just return from the evict_flags that you want to drop the backing 
>> store as soon as the BO leaves the GTT domain.
>
> Hmm, the pipeline_gutting function seems ok, but overly complex if the 
> bo is already idle, Am I allowed to optimize it slightly for the 
> latter case?

Yeah, sure. We just never hat that use case so far.

Christian.

>
> /Thomas
>
>
>>
>> Christian.
>>
>>>
>>> /Thomas
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Christian.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> /Thomas
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-18 16:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-18  8:26 [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 00/15] drm/i915: Move LMEM (VRAM) management over to TTM Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18  8:26 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 01/15] drm/i915: Untangle the vma pages_mutex Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18 11:12   ` Maarten Lankhorst
2021-05-18 11:28     ` Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18  8:26 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 02/15] drm/i915: Don't free shared locks while shared Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18 11:18   ` Maarten Lankhorst
2021-05-18 11:30     ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2021-05-18  8:26 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 03/15] drm/i915: Fix i915_sg_page_sizes to record dma segments rather than physical pages Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18  8:46   ` Matthew Auld
2021-05-18  8:26 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 04/15] drm/ttm: Export functions to initialize and finalize the ttm range manager standalone Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18  9:03   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-05-18 11:51   ` Christian König
2021-05-18 13:06     ` Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18 13:11       ` Christian König
2021-05-18  8:26 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 05/15] drm/i915/ttm Initialize the ttm device and memory managers Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18  9:05   ` Matthew Auld
2021-05-18  9:09   ` Matthew Auld
2021-05-18  9:12     ` Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18  8:26 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 06/15] drm/i915/ttm: Embed a ttm buffer object in the i915 gem object Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18 11:44   ` Maarten Lankhorst
2021-05-18  8:26 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 07/15] drm/ttm: Export ttm_bo_tt_destroy() Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18 11:46   ` Maarten Lankhorst
2021-05-18 12:01   ` Christian König
2021-05-18  8:26 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 08/15] drm/i915/ttm Add a generic TTM memcpy move for page-based iomem Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18 11:55   ` Christian König
2021-05-18 12:04     ` Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18 12:09       ` Christian König
2021-05-18 12:52         ` Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18 13:08           ` Christian König
2021-05-18 13:24             ` Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18 13:26               ` Christian König
2021-05-18  8:26 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 09/15] drm/ttm, drm/amdgpu: Allow the driver some control over swapping Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18 12:19   ` Maarten Lankhorst
2021-05-18 15:15   ` Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18 15:18     ` Christian König
2021-05-18 15:20       ` Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18 15:28         ` Christian König
2021-05-18 15:38           ` Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18 15:42             ` Christian König
2021-05-18 16:07               ` Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18 16:30                 ` Christian König [this message]
2021-05-19  6:27                   ` Thomas Hellström
2021-05-19 10:43                     ` Christian König
2021-05-18  8:26 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 10/15] drm/i915/ttm: Introduce a TTM i915 gem object backend Thomas Hellström
2021-05-19  9:53   ` Matthew Auld
2021-05-19 11:29     ` Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18  8:26 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 11/15] drm/i915/lmem: Verify checks for lmem residency Thomas Hellström
2021-05-19 10:04   ` Matthew Auld
2021-05-18  8:26 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 12/15] drm/i915: Disable mmap ioctl for gen12+ Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18  8:41   ` Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18  8:26 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 13/15] drm/ttm: Add BO and offset arguments for vm_access and vm_fault ttm handlers Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18  8:59   ` Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18 11:59     ` Christian König
2021-05-18 14:59       ` Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18  8:27 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 14/15] drm/i915: Use ttm mmap handling for ttm bo's Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18  9:17   ` Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18  8:27 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 15/15] drm/i915/ttm: Add io sgt caching to i915_ttm_io_mem_pfn Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18  9:33   ` Thomas Hellström
2021-05-18  8:44 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.CHECKPATCH: warning for drm/i915: Move LMEM (VRAM) management over to TTM (rev2) Patchwork
2021-05-18  8:47 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.SPARSE: " Patchwork
2021-05-18  9:14 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.BAT: failure " Patchwork
2021-05-18 17:02 ` [Intel-gfx] ✓ Fi.CI.IGT: success " Patchwork

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