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From: Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>
To: Andi Shyti <andi.shyti@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Soham Purkait <soham.purkait@intel.com>,
	<intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org>,  <riana.tauro@intel.com>,
	<anshuman.gupta@intel.com>, <aravind.iddamsetty@linux.intel.com>,
	<badal.nilawar@intel.com>, <raag.jadav@intel.com>,
	<ravi.kishore.koppuravuri@intel.com>,
	<mallesh.koujalagi@intel.com>, <anoop.c.vijay@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/2] drm/xe/xe_ras: Add RAS support for GPU health indicator
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2026 09:21:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aed5vwPcAdxS45aU@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aed0EPEZ8oQLzPNc@ashyti-mobl2.lan>

On Tue, Apr 21, 2026 at 02:56:48PM +0200, Andi Shyti wrote:
> Hi Rodrigo,
> 
> > > 
> > > If we need two strings, then we create two files.
> > 
> > This part I don't agree. This is just the same as the power cases
> > which I already had pointed out.
> > 
> > But right, you do have a point here. Different from power, we don't
> > necessarily need to expose all the supported modes + the current one.
> > After all, these states won't be that different from state to state.
> > 
> > We just need to document it properly and then just print:
> > either
> > 
> > ok
> > instead of
> > [ok] warning critical
> > 
> > or
> > warning
> > instead of
> > ok [warning] critical
> > 
> > or critical
> > instead of
> > ok warning [critical]
> > 
> > The full string with all the supported modes do sound bloated for
> > this case. Considering that the supported cases themselves shouldn't
> > change much and that we keep that documented. My bad, I'm sorry for
> > the confusion here.
> 
> Think of what a miserable life have userspace developers when
> parsing power files. They need to parse for the '[', for the ']'
> the number of words, etc. We have here an excellent example of
> how *not* to do things. :-)

not that miserable nowadays, just one AI prompt away ;)

> 
> > > If we just need to provide information to system administrators,
> > > then we can either use the debugfs or procfs that don't need to
> > > be considered as uAPI.
> > 
> > That is not true. In many data center deployments the 'debugfs'
> > is not available and the admin and cluster tools still need this
> > information. It needs to be stable API.
> 
> Bingo! :-)
> 
> Then you need to define an easily parsable, well documented api,
> so that it's accessable to everyone, applications and sysadmins.
> 
> Overall, I don't think this is a matter of taste, but, anyway,
> you are the maintainer and yours is the last word. To me, this
> looks incorrect.

I agree with most of your statements above, except that to me
this is easily parsable. But at the same time I also agree that
the simple state string is even easier and we should take that
path for this specific case.

But because (**and only because**) we don't expect changes in the
'available' modes in the HW/FW.

But the /sys/power style should be the way to go if we needed to
be prepared to have a flexible SW API that depends on different
HW and FW underneath.

> 
> Thanks,
> Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-21 13:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-16  9:36 [PATCH v1 0/2] drm/xe: Add support for GPU health indicator Soham Purkait
2026-04-16  9:36 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] drm/xe/xe_ras: Add structures and commands for RAS " Soham Purkait
2026-04-16 11:39   ` Andi Shyti
2026-04-17 14:45   ` Rodrigo Vivi
2026-04-16  9:36 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] drm/xe/xe_ras: Add RAS support for " Soham Purkait
2026-04-16 11:54   ` Andi Shyti
2026-04-17 14:51     ` Rodrigo Vivi
2026-04-20 15:26       ` Andi Shyti
2026-04-20 19:51         ` Rodrigo Vivi
2026-04-21 12:56           ` Andi Shyti
2026-04-21 13:21             ` Rodrigo Vivi [this message]
2026-04-22  6:05           ` Purkait, Soham
2026-04-20 16:19     ` Purkait, Soham
2026-04-20 17:35       ` Andi Shyti
2026-04-16  9:55 ` ✗ CI.checkpatch: warning for drm/xe: Add " Patchwork
2026-04-16  9:56 ` ✓ CI.KUnit: success " Patchwork
2026-04-16 10:58 ` ✓ Xe.CI.BAT: " Patchwork
2026-04-16 12:01 ` ✗ Xe.CI.FULL: failure " Patchwork

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