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From: Leonardo Bras <leo.bras@arm.com>
To: Oliver Upton <oupton@kernel.org>
Cc: Leonardo Bras <leo.bras@arm.com>,
	kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>,
	Wei-Lin Chang <weilin.chang@arm.com>,
	Steffen Eiden <seiden@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/22] KVM: arm64: Set dirty state at stage-1
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2026 11:39:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <akJLd5tqDhWi1ntA@LeoBrasDK> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aj64bOopE9WJoWBX@kernel.org>

On Fri, Jun 26, 2026 at 10:35:40AM -0700, Oliver Upton wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2026 at 04:49:36PM +0100, Leonardo Bras wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 23, 2026 at 11:41:52AM -0700, Oliver Upton wrote:
> > > Mark the descriptor as dirty if the permissions are sufficient to grant
> > > write access. Note that compute_s1_direct_permissions() already
> > > considers the DBM bit as writable.
> > 
> > IIUC the idea here is to avoid having a write fault when we first write to 
> > that page. Is that correct?
> > 
> > When we have HAFDBS the fault does not happen, and it gets marked from 
> > writeable-clean -> writeable-dirty by HAFDBS mechanism, which is cheap as 
> > it happens to be a write to the pgtable when memory is first written to.
> > 
> > On the other hand, when we clean the dirty-bits for the first time, we 
> > have to issue a write for every page that have been dirtied, in sequence.
> > 
> > An alternative would be not marking every page as dirty at first, in 
> > exchange of possibly having a faster first clean pass.
> > What do you think about it?
> 
> As Marc mentioned on the cover letter, this is unrelated to host dirty
> tracking. I'm implementing HAFDBS as part of our pseudo-TLB refill for
> nested. We need to mark translations as dirty in the nested S2 before
> filling the shadow S2 with something that allows writes.
> 

I see. Makes sense to me now.

Thanks for your patience!
Leo

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-29 10:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-23 18:41 [PATCH 00/22] KVM: arm64: nv: Implement FEAT_HAFDBS, FEAT_HAFT Oliver Upton
2026-06-23 18:41 ` [PATCH 01/22] KVM: arm64: nv: Introduce struct for stage-2 walk step Oliver Upton
2026-06-23 18:41 ` [PATCH 02/22] KVM: arm64: nv: Consolidate computation of stage-2 permissions Oliver Upton
2026-06-23 18:57   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-23 18:41 ` [PATCH 03/22] KVM: arm64: nv: Get rid of kvm_s2_trans*() accessors Oliver Upton
2026-06-23 18:41 ` [PATCH 04/22] KVM: arm64: nv: Only shadow writable-dirty guest descs as writable Oliver Upton
2026-06-23 18:58   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-23 20:05     ` Oliver Upton
2026-06-23 18:41 ` [PATCH 05/22] KVM: arm64: nv: Pass an access descriptor for stage-2 walks Oliver Upton
2026-06-23 19:06   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-23 18:41 ` [PATCH 06/22] KVM: arm64: nv: Use a helper for stage-2 descriptor updates Oliver Upton
2026-06-23 18:41 ` [PATCH 07/22] KVM: arm64: nv: Set dirty state at stage-2 Oliver Upton
2026-06-23 19:03   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06 16:50   ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-07-08  7:35     ` Oliver Upton
2026-06-23 18:41 ` [PATCH 08/22] KVM: arm64: nv: Treat DBM as writable " Oliver Upton
2026-06-23 18:55   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-23 20:08     ` Oliver Upton
2026-06-23 18:41 ` [PATCH 09/22] KVM: arm64: Compute S1 permissions as part of s1_walk() Oliver Upton
2026-06-23 18:41 ` [PATCH 10/22] KVM: arm64: Plumb through access descriptor for stage-1 Oliver Upton
2026-06-23 18:41 ` [PATCH 11/22] KVM: arm64: Use a struct for stage-1 walk context Oliver Upton
2026-06-23 18:41 ` [PATCH 12/22] KVM: arm64: Create helper for stage-1 descriptor updates Oliver Upton
2026-06-23 18:55   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-23 18:41 ` [PATCH 13/22] KVM: arm64: Set dirty state at stage-1 Oliver Upton
2026-06-23 18:54   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-26 15:49   ` Leonardo Bras
2026-06-26 16:03     ` Marc Zyngier
2026-06-29 10:38       ` Leonardo Bras
2026-06-26 17:35     ` Oliver Upton
2026-06-29 10:39       ` Leonardo Bras [this message]
2026-06-23 18:41 ` [PATCH 14/22] KVM: arm64: Grant write permission when DBM is set at S1 Oliver Upton
2026-06-23 18:57   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-23 18:41 ` [PATCH 15/22] KVM: arm64: Don't update descriptors for "non-arch" access Oliver Upton
2026-06-23 18:41 ` [PATCH 16/22] KVM: arm64: nv: Expose FEAT_HAFDBS Oliver Upton
2026-06-23 19:01   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-23 18:41 ` [PATCH 17/22] KVM: arm64: Set Access flag on table descriptors at stage-1 Oliver Upton
2026-06-23 20:56   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-23 18:41 ` [PATCH 18/22] KVM: arm64: nv: Set access flag on table descriptors at stage-2 Oliver Upton
2026-06-23 19:05   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-23 20:14     ` Oliver Upton
2026-06-23 18:41 ` [PATCH 19/22] KVM: arm64: nv: Expose FEAT_HAFT Oliver Upton
2026-06-23 19:05   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-23 18:41 ` [PATCH 20/22] KVM: arm64: selftests: Only test AF behavior for emulated AT insns Oliver Upton
2026-06-23 18:42 ` [PATCH 21/22] KVM: arm64: selftests: Test AT emulation for FEAT_HAFT Oliver Upton
2026-06-23 19:05   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-23 20:17     ` Oliver Upton
2026-06-23 18:42 ` [PATCH 22/22] HACK: KVM: arm64: nv: Set the dirty state for CMOs that fetch for write Oliver Upton
2026-07-01 10:16   ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-07-01 17:33     ` Oliver Upton
2026-07-02  6:50       ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-06-26 15:31 ` [PATCH 00/22] KVM: arm64: nv: Implement FEAT_HAFDBS, FEAT_HAFT Leonardo Bras
2026-06-26 17:12   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-06-26 17:45     ` Oliver Upton
2026-06-29 10:37       ` Leonardo Bras
2026-06-29 10:29     ` Leonardo Bras

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