From: Leonardo Bras <leo.bras@arm.com>
To: Oliver Upton <oupton@kernel.org>
Cc: Leonardo Bras <leo.bras@arm.com>,
kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com>,
Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>,
Wei-Lin Chang <weilin.chang@arm.com>,
Steffen Eiden <seiden@linux.ibm.com>,
Fuad Tabba <fuad.tabba@linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 18/28] KVM: arm64: nv: Emulate CMOs via writable-clean translations as NOPs
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2026 15:03:46 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <autJUntFMhCoqZeH@LeoBrasDK> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261023205610.1044532-19-oupton@kernel.org>
On Fri, Oct 23, 2026 at 01:56:00PM -0700, Oliver Upton wrote:
> Virtualizing FEAT_HAFDBS for an L1 hypervisor has a pretty large
> architectural deficiency by way of cache maintenance instructions.
> CMOs (e.g. DC IVAC) require write permission but do not set the dirty
> state on the descriptor.
>
> There's no way to shadow a writable-clean translation in such a way that
> these CMOs pass the permission check and subsequent writes generate a
> permission fault. Worse yet, data aborts taken on CMOs do not have
> sufficient syndrome information to perform instruction emulation and
> trapping all CMOs is unpalatable.
>
> So what do we do? Absolutely nothing. Treat CMOs to writable-clean
> translations as NOPs in anticipation of KVM only exposing FEAT_HAFDBS
> when the VM is fully coherent (FEAT_S2FWB, CTR_EL0.{DIC,IDC}={1,1}, no
> noncoherent DMA).
>
> Signed-off-by: Oliver Upton <oupton@kernel.org>
> ---
> arch/arm64/kvm/mmu.c | 4 ++++
> arch/arm64/kvm/nested.c | 20 ++++++++++++++++++++
> 2 files changed, 24 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/arch/arm64/kvm/mmu.c b/arch/arm64/kvm/mmu.c
> index 7b29be33a1ea..a21b674a1981 100644
> --- a/arch/arm64/kvm/mmu.c
> +++ b/arch/arm64/kvm/mmu.c
> @@ -2548,6 +2548,10 @@ int kvm_handle_guest_abort(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> }
>
> ret = kvm_s2_handle_perm_fault(vcpu, &nested_trans);
> + if (ret == -EAGAIN) {
> + ret = 1;
> + goto out_unlock;
> + }
> if (ret) {
> esr = nested_trans.esr;
> kvm_inject_s2_fault(vcpu, esr);
> diff --git a/arch/arm64/kvm/nested.c b/arch/arm64/kvm/nested.c
> index 7dda95d37925..46fcc75f4c20 100644
> --- a/arch/arm64/kvm/nested.c
> +++ b/arch/arm64/kvm/nested.c
> @@ -1150,6 +1150,26 @@ int kvm_s2_handle_perm_fault(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, struct kvm_s2_trans *trans)
> } else {
> bool write_fault = kvm_is_write_fault(vcpu);
>
> + /*
> + * Plug your nose for a moment.
> + *
> + * Writable-clean translations are shadowed using a read-only
> + * mapping so KVM can set the dirty state on the L1 descriptor
> + * before installing a writable mapping.
> + *
> + * Certain cache maintenance instructions require a write
> + * permission check but leave the translation in a writable-clean
> + * state, meaning KVM is on the hook to emulate CMOs that use a
> + * writable-clean translation.
> + *
> + * "Emulate" the CMO as a NOP, as KVM only exposes FEAT_HAFDBS
> + * when FEAT_S2FWB is present and the I-cache is coherent.
> + */
> + if (kvm_vcpu_dabt_is_cm(vcpu) && trans->writable && !trans->dirty) {
> + kvm_incr_pc(vcpu);
> + return -EAGAIN;
> + }
> +
> forward_fault = ((write_fault && !trans->writable) ||
> (!write_fault && !trans->readable));
> }
Maybe it's just to messy or plain wrong, but could we make the descriptor
WC, then run the said DC instruction, then make it RO again?
I mean, maybe I got it wrong, but if we can't enable HAFDBS for the
nested guest, as updating a shadow PTE from WC->WD would require us to
take a fault to update the PTE inside the guest hypervisor, we could have
the PTE as WC without risking it to be promoted to WD by hardware.
I am probably missing something.
Thanks!
Leo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-04 15:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-23 20:55 [PATCH v2 00/28] KVM: arm64: nv: Implement FEAT_HAFDBS, FEAT_HAFT Oliver Upton
2026-10-23 20:55 ` [PATCH v2 01/28] KVM: arm64: nv: Introduce struct for stage-2 walk step Oliver Upton
2026-10-23 20:55 ` [PATCH v2 02/28] KVM: arm64: nv: Consolidate computation of stage-2 permissions Oliver Upton
2026-10-23 20:55 ` [PATCH v2 03/28] KVM: arm64: nv: Get rid of kvm_s2_trans*() accessors Oliver Upton
2026-10-23 20:55 ` [PATCH v2 04/28] KVM: arm64: nv: Only shadow writable-dirty guest descs as writable Oliver Upton
2026-10-23 21:25 ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-24 6:26 ` Oliver Upton
2026-11-02 17:27 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-10-23 20:55 ` [PATCH v2 05/28] KVM: arm64: nv: Pass an access descriptor for stage-2 walks Oliver Upton
2026-11-02 17:41 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-10-23 20:55 ` [PATCH v2 06/28] KVM: arm64: nv: Use a helper for stage-2 descriptor updates Oliver Upton
2026-11-02 17:51 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-10-23 20:55 ` [PATCH v2 07/28] KVM: arm64: nv: Set dirty state at stage-2 Oliver Upton
2026-11-02 18:14 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-10-23 20:55 ` [PATCH v2 08/28] KVM: arm64: nv: Treat DBM as writable " Oliver Upton
2026-10-23 20:55 ` [PATCH v2 09/28] KVM: arm64: Compute S1 permissions as part of s1_walk() Oliver Upton
2026-10-23 20:55 ` [PATCH v2 10/28] KVM: arm64: Plumb through access descriptor for stage-1 Oliver Upton
2026-10-23 21:06 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-03 17:37 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-10-23 20:55 ` [PATCH v2 11/28] KVM: arm64: Use a struct for stage-1 walk context Oliver Upton
2026-10-23 20:55 ` [PATCH v2 12/28] KVM: arm64: Create helper for stage-1 descriptor updates Oliver Upton
2026-10-23 20:55 ` [PATCH v2 13/28] KVM: arm64: Set dirty state at stage-1 Oliver Upton
2026-10-23 20:55 ` [PATCH v2 14/28] KVM: arm64: nv: Respect HA when computing translated TCR Oliver Upton
2026-11-03 17:58 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-10-23 20:55 ` [PATCH v2 15/28] KVM: arm64: nv: Respect HD " Oliver Upton
2026-11-03 18:08 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-10-23 20:55 ` [PATCH v2 16/28] KVM: arm64: Grant write permission when DBM is set at S1 Oliver Upton
2026-10-23 20:55 ` [PATCH v2 17/28] KVM: arm64: Don't update descriptors for "non-arch" access Oliver Upton
2026-10-23 20:56 ` [PATCH v2 18/28] KVM: arm64: nv: Emulate CMOs via writable-clean translations as NOPs Oliver Upton
2026-11-04 15:03 ` Leonardo Bras [this message]
2026-11-04 17:22 ` Oliver Upton
2026-11-04 17:28 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-11-04 18:04 ` Oliver Upton
2026-11-04 18:27 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-11-04 18:28 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-11-04 18:32 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-11-05 8:11 ` Oliver Upton
2026-11-05 12:23 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-10-23 20:56 ` [PATCH v2 19/28] arm64: Add command line switch to disable FEAT_S2FWB Oliver Upton
2026-11-04 15:58 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-10-23 20:56 ` [PATCH v2 20/28] KVM: arm64: Reject non-coherent DMA when using forced writeback Oliver Upton
2026-10-23 21:16 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-04 16:19 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-10-23 20:56 ` [PATCH v2 21/28] KVM: arm64: nv: Expose FEAT_HAFDBS Oliver Upton
2026-11-04 16:56 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-10-23 20:56 ` [PATCH v2 22/28] KVM: arm64: Set Access flag on table descriptors at stage-1 Oliver Upton
2026-10-23 21:22 ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-24 6:24 ` Oliver Upton
2026-10-23 20:56 ` [PATCH v2 23/28] KVM: arm64: nv: Set access flag on table descriptors at stage-2 Oliver Upton
2026-10-23 20:56 ` [PATCH v2 24/28] KVM: arm64: nv: Expose FEAT_HAFT Oliver Upton
2026-10-23 20:56 ` [PATCH v2 25/28] KVM: arm64: selftests: Only test AF behavior for emulated AT insns Oliver Upton
2026-10-23 20:56 ` [PATCH v2 26/28] KVM: arm64: selftests: Test AT emulation for FEAT_HAFT Oliver Upton
2026-10-23 20:56 ` [PATCH v2 27/28] KVM: arm64: Add tracepoints for S1 page table walk Oliver Upton
2026-11-04 17:09 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-10-23 20:56 ` [PATCH v2 28/28] KVM: arm64: Add tracepoints for S2 " Oliver Upton
2026-11-04 17:10 ` Leonardo Bras
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