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From: Jinjie Ruan <ruanjinjie@huawei.com>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <lpieralisi@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/19] arm64: smp: Defer RCU registration during secondary CPU bringup
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2026 10:47:58 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <19ba4bb9-e2c4-4956-bd8d-b8f50259a422@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aqFS58mJ4GJNrbZ2@willie-the-truck>



在 2026/9/9 20:36, Will Deacon 写道:
> On Tue, Sep 08, 2026 at 07:25:54PM +0800, Jinjie Ruan wrote:
>> 在 2026/9/8 18:19, Will Deacon 写道:
>>> On Tue, Sep 08, 2026 at 04:55:36PM +0800, Jinjie Ruan wrote:
>>>> I think we need to handle the printk problem before this patch as we
>>>> discussed earlier.
>>>>
>>>> Otherwise defer the rcutree_report_cpu_starting() will trigger a
>>>> false-positive lockdep"suspicious RCU usage" splat during early lock
>>>> acquisitions as commit ce3d31ad3cac ("arm64/smp: Move
>>>> rcu_cpu_starting() earlier") pointed out.
>>>
>>> Sorry, I meant to mention this in the cover letter but forgot about it.
>>> I'm not sure that ce3d31ad3cac ("arm64/smp: Move rcu_cpu_starting()
>>> earlier") is still relevant with the latest printk/console/lockdep code.
>>> I tried quite hard to trigger lockdep splats manually, but the only way
>>> I could do it was by using the "%pS" specifier to print the name of a
>>> symbol in a module, which would cause an RCU walk of the module symbols
>>> in the kallsyms code! Manually calling WARN() or even rcu_read_lock() /
>>> spin_lock() did _not_ trigger a splat.
>>
>> Add "dyndbg="+p"" in cmdline, CONFIG_DEBUG_LOCK_ALLOC=y,
>> CONFIG_PROVE_RCU_LIST=y, we can reproduce the warning as below:
>>
>> I believe there is also a problem in the RISC-V code itself here as
>> store_cpu_topology() is common for RISC-V.
>>
>> [    0.335162] smp: Bringing up secondary CPUs ...
>> [    0.345495]
>> [    0.345513] =============================
>> [    0.345523] WARNING: suspicious RCU usage
>> [    0.345621] 7.3.0-rc2-00010-g2311ba2cd56f #500 Tainted: G        W
>> [    0.345637] -----------------------------
>> [    0.345646] kernel/locking/lockdep.c:3845 RCU-list traversed in
>> non-reader section!!
>> [    0.345659]
>> [    0.345659] other info that might help us debug this:
>> [    0.345659]
>> [    0.345680]
>> [    0.345680] RCU used illegally from offline CPU!
>> [    0.345680] rcu_scheduler_active = 1, debug_locks = 1
>> [    0.345725] locks held by swapper/1/0: 0, last CPU#1
>> [    0.345743]
>> [    0.345743] stack backtrace:
>> [    0.345834] CPU: 1 UID: 0 PID: 0 Comm: swapper/1 Tainted: G        W
>>          7.3.0-rc2-00010-g2311ba2cd56f #500 PREEMPT(full)
>> [    0.345885] Tainted: [W]=WARN
>> [    0.346077] Call trace:
>> [    0.346102]  show_stack+0x20/0x38 (C)
>> [    0.346153]  dump_stack_lvl+0xc4/0x150
>> [    0.346176]  dump_stack+0x18/0x28
>> [    0.346194]  lockdep_rcu_suspicious+0x170/0x238
>> [    0.346217]  __lock_acquire+0xf08/0x1818
>> [    0.346237]  lock_acquire+0x1e0/0x450
>> [    0.346256]  _raw_spin_lock_irqsave+0x70/0xc0
>> [    0.346277]  down_trylock+0x20/0x60
>> [    0.346293]  __down_trylock_console_sem+0x4c/0x118
>> [    0.346316]  vprintk_emit+0x2d8/0x3f8
>> [    0.346333]  vprintk_default+0x40/0x58
>> [    0.346350]  vprintk+0x3c/0x80
>> [    0.346366]  _printk+0x64/0x98
>> [    0.346386]  __dynamic_pr_debug+0x90/0xd8
>> [    0.346406]  acpi_get_cache_info+0x140/0x1a0
>> [    0.346430]  init_cache_level+0xec/0x110
>> [    0.346450]  detect_cache_attributes+0x74/0x7c0
>> [    0.346473]  update_siblings_masks+0x30/0x300
>> [    0.346495]  store_cpu_topology+0x70/0xf0
>> [    0.346515]  secondary_start_kernel+0xe0/0x178
>> [    0.346535]  __secondary_switched+0xc0/0xc8
> 
> I was about to say "don't do this" but then I realised two things:
> 
> 1. update_siblings_masks() can trigger lockdep splats outside of
>    pr_debug() if RCU isn't up and running, e.g.:
> 
>     [    0.524042]  show_stack+0x18/0x24 (C)
>     [    0.524519]  __dump_stack+0x28/0x38
>     [    0.524546]  dump_stack_lvl+0x64/0x84
>     [    0.524562]  dump_stack+0x18/0x24
>     [    0.524576]  lockdep_rcu_suspicious+0x134/0x1cc
>     [    0.524591]  __lock_acquire+0xee8/0x2cb0
>     [    0.524606]  lock_acquire+0x11c/0x2fc
>     [    0.524621]  _raw_spin_lock_irqsave+0x64/0x84
>     [    0.524641]  of_find_property+0x2c/0x8c
>     [    0.524659]  detect_cache_attributes+0x1c0/0x6d0
>     [    0.524676]  update_siblings_masks+0x38/0x288
>     [    0.524692]  store_cpu_topology+0x4c/0x58
>     [    0.524706]  secondary_start_kernel+0xdc/0x1c8
>     [    0.524722]  __secondary_switched+0x120/0x124
> 
> 2. This code is running _after_ cpuhp_ap_sync_alive().
> 
> So for the next version, I'll reintroduce the call to
> rcutree_report_cpu_starting(), but move it immediately after the call to
> cpuhp_ap_sync_alive(). I think that will solve these issues, without

pr_crit() and pr_warn() (such as vec_verify_vq_map()) in
check_local_cpu_capabilities() can also trigger lockdep splats as below.

But I think this is not common on the failure path, so it seems to have
little impact..


[    0.158619] smp: Bringing up secondary CPUs ...
[    0.173958] CPU1: missing HWCAP.
[    0.174071]
[    0.174088] =============================
[    0.174099] WARNING: suspicious RCU usage
[    0.174197] 7.3.0-rc2-00020-gef0bd63bdd97-dirty #504 Tainted: G        W
[    0.174217] -----------------------------
[    0.174226] kernel/locking/lockdep.c:3845 RCU-list traversed in
non-reader section!!
[    0.174240]
[    0.174240] other info that might help us debug this:
[    0.174240]
[    0.174262]
[    0.174262] RCU used illegally from offline CPU!
[    0.174262] rcu_scheduler_active = 1, debug_locks = 1
[    0.174306] locks held by swapper/1/0: 0, last CPU#1
[    0.174326]
[    0.174326] stack backtrace:
[    0.174412] CPU: 1 UID: 0 PID: 0 Comm: swapper/1 Tainted: G        W
         7.3.0-rc2-00020-gef0bd63bdd97-dirty #504 PREEMPT(full)
[    0.174462] Tainted: [W]=WARN
[    0.174488] Call trace:
[    0.174513]  show_stack+0x20/0x38 (C)
[    0.174568]  dump_stack_lvl+0xc4/0x150
[    0.174594]  dump_stack+0x18/0x28
[    0.174615]  lockdep_rcu_suspicious+0x170/0x238
[    0.174641]  __lock_acquire+0xf08/0x1818
[    0.174664]  lock_acquire+0x1e0/0x450
[    0.174687]  _raw_spin_lock_irqsave+0x70/0xc0
[    0.174709]  down_trylock+0x20/0x60
[    0.174728]  __down_trylock_console_sem+0x4c/0x118
[    0.174748]  vprintk_emit+0x2d8/0x3f8
[    0.174769]  vprintk_default+0x40/0x58
[    0.174788]  vprintk+0x3c/0x80
[    0.174808]  _printk+0x64/0x98
[    0.174832]  secondary_start_kernel+0xc8/0x190
[    0.174857]  __secondary_switched+0x120/0x128


> causing issues with the concurrent part of early boot and also without
> reintroducing the early call to rcutree_report_cpu_dead().
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Will



  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-10  2:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-07 16:40 [PATCH 00/19] arm64: Implement parallel CPU onlining with PSCI v0.2+ Will Deacon
2026-09-07 16:40 ` [PATCH 01/19] cpu/hotplug: Clean up cmpxchg() logic in cpuhp_can_boot_ap() Will Deacon
2026-09-08  2:55   ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-07 16:40 ` [PATCH 02/19] cpu/hotplug: Avoid trying to bring up CPUs that are already online Will Deacon
2026-09-08  3:13   ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-07 16:40 ` [PATCH 03/19] cpu/hotplug: Avoid busy-polling on archs where cpu_relax() is a no-op Will Deacon
2026-09-08  4:00   ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-11  7:16   ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-11 12:57     ` Will Deacon
2026-09-07 16:40 ` [PATCH 04/19] cpu/hotplug: Propagate bring-up status to arch_cpuhp_cleanup_kick_cpu() Will Deacon
2026-09-08  4:05   ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-07 16:40 ` [PATCH 05/19] arm64: smp: Tidy up smp_prepare_cpus() Will Deacon
2026-09-08  7:35   ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-07 16:40 ` [PATCH 06/19] arm64: smp: Tidy up cpuinfo init and cpufeature updates Will Deacon
2026-09-08  7:53   ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-07 16:40 ` [PATCH 07/19] arm64: smp: Defer update of secondary CPU capabilities Will Deacon
2026-09-08  8:20   ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-07 16:40 ` [PATCH 08/19] arm64: smp: Don't bother printing the I-cache policy for each CPU Will Deacon
2026-09-08  8:33   ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-07 16:40 ` [PATCH 09/19] arm64: smp: Defer RCU registration during secondary CPU bringup Will Deacon
2026-09-08  8:55   ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-08 10:19     ` Will Deacon
2026-09-08 11:25       ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-09 12:36         ` Will Deacon
2026-09-10  2:47           ` Jinjie Ruan [this message]
2026-09-11 12:52             ` Will Deacon
2026-09-07 16:40 ` [PATCH 10/19] arm64: smp: Use generic HOTPLUG_CORE_SYNC_FULL machinery for CPU onlining Will Deacon
2026-09-08  9:01   ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-07 16:40 ` [PATCH 11/19] arm64: smp: Use generic HOTPLUG_SPLIT_STARTUP " Will Deacon
2026-09-08  9:10   ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-08 11:35   ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-11 12:55     ` Will Deacon
2026-09-07 16:40 ` [PATCH 12/19] arm64: cpu_ops: Make 'cpu_operations' pointer global instead of per-cpu Will Deacon
2026-09-08 11:32   ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-11 12:55     ` Will Deacon
2026-09-07 16:40 ` [PATCH 13/19] arm64: cpu_ops: Introduce get_secondary_cpu_ops() Will Deacon
2026-09-08 11:56   ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-07 16:40 ` [PATCH 14/19] firmware/psci: Cache PSCI v0.2+ version number to avoid redundant SMCs Will Deacon
2026-09-08 11:57   ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-07 16:40 ` [PATCH 15/19] firmware/psci: Extend ->cpu_on() callback to take an additional argument Will Deacon
2026-09-08 12:05   ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-07 16:40 ` [PATCH 16/19] arm64: cpu_ops: Expose optional argument to target cpu in ->cpu_boot() Will Deacon
2026-09-08 12:12   ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-07 16:40 ` [PATCH 17/19] arm64: smp: Pass secondary CPU boot parameters via firmware if possible Will Deacon
2026-09-08 12:16   ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-07 16:40 ` [PATCH 18/19] arm64: smp: Use generic HOTPLUG_PARALLEL machinery for CPU onlining Will Deacon
2026-09-08 13:05   ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-11 12:56     ` Will Deacon
2026-09-07 16:40 ` [PATCH 19/19] arm64: smp: Harden parallel CPU bringup against broken PSCI firmware Will Deacon
2026-09-08 13:36   ` Will Deacon

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