From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: vladimir.murzin@arm.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com,
peterz@infradead.org, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
david.laight.linux@gmail.com, stable@vger.kernel.org,
ruanjinjie@huawei.com, james.morse@arm.com,
yang@os.amperecomputing.com, cl@gentwo.org, maz@kernel.org,
ljs@kernel.org, will@kernel.org, ardb@kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 13/20] arm64: percpu: Add infrastructure for preemptible this_cpu_*() ops
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2026 12:21:51 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <anRuT1Psmar9mW5L@J2N7QTR9R3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d600d0db-5109-4386-9a49-955be74cc432@kernel.org>
On Wed, Aug 05, 2026 at 08:47:08AM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> On 8/5/26 08:45, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> >> Atop v7.2-rc4, with GCC 15.2.0 and defconfig, this is compiled as:
> >>
> >> | <outline_this_cpu_add_u64>:
> >> | paciasp
> >> | stp x29, x30, [sp, #-16]!
> >> | mrs x2, sp_el0
> >> | mov x29, sp
> >> | ldr w3, [x2, #8]
> >> | add w3, w3, #0x1
> >> | str w3, [x2, #8]
> >> | mrs x3, tpidr_el1
> >> | add x0, x0, x3
> >> | 1: ldxr x5, [x0]
> >> | add x5, x5, x1
> >> | stxr w4, x5, [x0]
> >> | cbnz w4, 1b
> >> | ldr x0, [x2, #8]
> >> | sub x0, x0, #0x1
> >> | str w0, [x2, #8]
> >> | cbz x0, 2f
> >> | ldr x0, [x2, #8]
> >> | cbnz x0, 3f
> >> | 2: bl preempt_schedule_notrace
> >> | 3: ldp x29, x30, [sp], #16
> >> | autiasp
> >> | ret
> >
> > FWIW, in a recent discussion on some prototype hacking [1] we saw some overhead
> > in micro-benchmarks that would really hammer on a path that would now do a
> > preempt_disable()+preempt_enable().
> >
> > Switching from preempt_disable() to preempt_enable_no_resched() made it turn to
> > noise. Of course, that has other undesirable impacts, and I am not sure if we
> > are in the territory of code layout changes affecting the numbers.
> >
> > Just mentioning it as some data point.
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20260630174852-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org/
Thanks for the pointer.
IIUC in those cases you're using preempt_disable() .. preempt_enable()
directly, not this_cpu_*(), right?
If so, patches 5 and 6 of this series [2,3] might have an impact, but I
wouldn't expect a significant change unless you're calling
preempt_enable a lot.
Please beware that it's not safe to use preempt_enable_no_resched()
UNLESS it is immediately followed by a call to schedule(). That's not
documented today (and I couldn't find a good reference), so more folk
are likely to be tempted to use it...
I'll send a patch to clarify that (or at least start the discussion with
scheduler/preempt folk).
Mark.
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/20260804170503.3513916-6-mark.rutland@arm.com/
[3] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/20260804170503.3513916-7-mark.rutland@arm.com/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-06 11:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-04 17:04 [PATCH v2 00/20] arm64: Preemptible this_cpu_*() operations Mark Rutland
2026-08-04 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 01/20] arm64: percpu: Fix this_cpu_write() casting Mark Rutland
2026-08-05 8:37 ` David Laight
2026-08-04 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 02/20] arm64: percpu: Fix this_cpu_and() mask generation Mark Rutland
2026-08-05 9:14 ` David Laight
2026-08-05 13:02 ` Mark Rutland
2026-08-06 8:28 ` David Laight
2026-08-06 10:23 ` Mark Rutland
2026-08-04 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 03/20] arm64: cmpxchg: LL/SC: Avoid redundant extension Mark Rutland
2026-08-04 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 04/20] arm64: cmpxchg128: LSE: Remove redundant operands Mark Rutland
2026-08-04 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 05/20] arm64: preempt: Simplify and optimize __preempt_count_dec_and_test() Mark Rutland
2026-08-04 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 06/20] arm64: preempt: Treat should_resched() as unlikely Mark Rutland
2026-08-04 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 07/20] arm64: ptrace: Always inline pt_regs_[read,write}_reg() Mark Rutland
2026-08-04 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 08/20] arm64: percpu: Factor out percpu offset asm Mark Rutland
2026-08-04 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 09/20] arm64: gpr-num: Add wxN aliases for wN registers Mark Rutland
2026-08-04 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 10/20] arm64: gpr-num: add __GPR_NUM() helper Mark Rutland
2026-08-04 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 11/20] arm64: entry: sdei: Restore all clobberable GPRs Mark Rutland
2026-08-04 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 12/20] arm64: entry: sdei: Make 'tsk' available Mark Rutland
2026-08-04 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 13/20] arm64: percpu: Add infrastructure for preemptible this_cpu_*() ops Mark Rutland
2026-08-04 22:45 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-08-05 10:27 ` David Laight
2026-08-05 12:50 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-08-05 6:45 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-05 6:47 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-06 11:21 ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2026-08-06 11:32 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-06 12:02 ` Mark Rutland
2026-08-06 13:25 ` David Laight
2026-08-06 13:30 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-04 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 14/20] arm64: percpu: Implement preemptible read/write ops Mark Rutland
2026-08-05 9:24 ` Ryan Roberts
2026-08-05 12:08 ` David Laight
2026-08-05 13:34 ` Mark Rutland
2026-08-04 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 15/20] arm64: percpu: Implement preemptible void RMW ops Mark Rutland
2026-08-04 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 16/20] arm64: percpu: Implement preemptible return " Mark Rutland
2026-08-04 17:05 ` [PATCH v2 17/20] arm64: percpu: Implement preemptible XCHG ops Mark Rutland
2026-08-04 17:05 ` [PATCH v2 18/20] arm64: percpu: Implement preemptible CMPXCHG ops Mark Rutland
2026-08-04 17:05 ` [PATCH v2 19/20] arm64: percpu: Implement preemptible CMPXCHG128 ops Mark Rutland
2026-08-04 17:05 ` [PATCH v2 20/20] arm64: percpu: Remove _pcp_protect*() wrappers Mark Rutland
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