From: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
To: Tomasz Chmielewski <mangoo@wpkg.org>
Cc: Thomas Glanzmann <thomas@glanzmann.de>,
Heinz-Josef Claes <hjclaes@web.de>,
Edward Shishkin <edward.shishkin@gmail.com>,
linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Data Deduplication with the help of an online filesystem check
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 08:50:16 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090605125016.GA6942@think> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A290DA0.5090105@wpkg.org>
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 02:20:48PM +0200, Tomasz Chmielewski wrote:
> Chris Mason wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 10:49:19AM +0200, Thomas Glanzmann wrote:
>>> Hello Chris,
>>>
>>>>> My question is now, how often can a block in btrfs be refferenced?
>>>> The exact answer depends on if we are referencing it from a single
>>>> file or from multiple files. But either way it is roughly 2^32.
>>> could you please explain to me what underlying datastructure is used to
>>> monitor if the block is still referenced or already free? Is a counter
>>> used, bitmap (but that can't be if is 2^32) or some sort of list? I
>>> assume that a counter is used. If this is the case, I assume when a
>>> snapshot for example is deleted the reference counter of every block
>>> that was referenced in the snapshot will be decremented by one. Is this
>>> correct or am I missing something here?
>>
>> It is a counter and a back reference. With Yan Zheng's new format work,
>> the limit is not 2^64.
>>
>> When a snapshot is deleted, the btree is walked to efficiently drop the
>> references on the blocks it referenced.
>>
>> From a dedup point of view, we'll want the dedup file to hold a
>> reference on the file extents. The kernel ioctl side of things will
>> take care of that part.
>
> I wonder how well would deduplication work with defragmentation? One
> excludes the other to some extent.
Very much so ;) Ideally we end up doing dedup in large extents, but it
will definitely increase the overall fragmentation of the FS.
-chris
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Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-27 3:33 Data Deduplication with the help of an online filesystem check Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-27 13:37 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-28 5:22 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 10:02 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-28 13:49 ` Andrey Kuzmin
2009-04-28 13:58 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-28 14:04 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 17:21 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-28 20:10 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 20:29 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 13:58 ` jim owens
2009-04-28 16:10 ` Anthony Roberts
2009-04-28 15:59 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 16:04 ` Tomasz Chmielewski
2009-04-28 17:29 ` Edward Shishkin
2009-04-28 17:34 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 17:38 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-28 17:43 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 17:45 ` Heinz-Josef Claes
2009-04-28 20:16 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 20:36 ` Heinz-Josef Claes
2009-04-28 20:52 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 20:58 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-28 21:12 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 21:26 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-28 22:14 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 23:18 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-29 12:03 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-29 13:11 ` Michael Tharp
2009-04-29 13:14 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-29 13:58 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-29 14:31 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-29 15:26 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-29 15:45 ` Chris Mason
2009-06-04 8:49 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-06-04 11:43 ` Chris Mason
2009-06-04 12:03 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-06-04 12:43 ` Chris Mason
2009-06-05 12:20 ` Tomasz Chmielewski
2009-06-05 12:50 ` Chris Mason [this message]
2009-06-05 15:35 ` Tomasz Chmielewski
2009-04-29 0:06 ` Bron Gondwana
2009-05-06 15:16 ` Sander
2009-04-28 17:32 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 17:41 ` Michael Tharp
2009-04-28 20:14 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-05-04 14:29 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-05-04 14:39 ` Tomasz Chmielewski
2009-05-04 14:45 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-05-04 15:15 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-05-04 16:03 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-05-04 16:16 ` Andrey Kuzmin
2009-05-04 16:24 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-05-04 18:06 ` Jan-Frode Myklebust
2009-05-04 19:16 ` Andrey Kuzmin
2009-05-05 8:02 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-05-04 16:26 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-05-04 19:11 ` Heinz-Josef Claes
2009-05-04 21:29 ` Dmitri Nikulin
2009-05-05 7:18 ` Heinz-Josef Claes
2009-05-24 7:27 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 17:23 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-28 17:37 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 17:43 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-28 20:15 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 21:19 ` Dmitri Nikulin
2009-04-28 20:24 ` Thomas Glanzmann
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