From: Andrey Kuzmin <andrey.v.kuzmin@gmail.com>
To: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
Cc: Thomas Glanzmann <thomas@glanzmann.de>, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Data Deduplication with the help of an online filesystem check
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:49:44 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2a31deca0904280649w29d9cca8re9c0abc910ff99@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1240912971.2149.5.camel@think.oraclecorp.com>
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com> w=
rote:
> On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 07:22 +0200, Thomas Glanzmann wrote:
>> Hello Chris,
>>
>> > There is a btrfs ioctl to clone individual files, and this could b=
e used
>> > to implement an online dedup. =A0But, since it is happening from u=
serland,
>> > you can't lock out all of the other users of a given file.
>>
>> > So, the dedup application would be responsible for making sure a g=
iven
>> > file was not being changed while the dedup scan was running.
>>
>> I see, does that mean that I can not do ,,dedup'' for files that are
>> currently opened by a userland program?
>
> No, but it does mean the dedup done from userland is racey. =A0Pictur=
e
Race disappears if (background) dedupe is run against snapshot(s).
Regards,
Andrey
> this:
>
> process A:
> =A0 =A0create some_file # some_file matches the contents of another f=
ile
>
> dedup proc:
> =A0 =A0check some_file
> =A0 =A0decide to start block dedup
>
> process A:
> =A0 =A0 modify some_file
>
> dedup proc:
> =A0 =A0 progress through block dedup
>
> So, this will happily replace blocks in some_file with the dedup bloc=
ks.
> But there's no way to atomically swap them.
>
> We could create new ioctls for this, basically a variant of the clone
> file ioctl that makes sure a given set of pages has a given sum (or
> strict memory contents) before doing the swap.
>
> But they don't exist yet.
>
> -chris
>
>
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Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-27 3:33 Data Deduplication with the help of an online filesystem check Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-27 13:37 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-28 5:22 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 10:02 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-28 13:49 ` Andrey Kuzmin [this message]
2009-04-28 13:58 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-28 14:04 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 17:21 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-28 20:10 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 20:29 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 13:58 ` jim owens
2009-04-28 16:10 ` Anthony Roberts
2009-04-28 15:59 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 16:04 ` Tomasz Chmielewski
2009-04-28 17:29 ` Edward Shishkin
2009-04-28 17:34 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 17:38 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-28 17:43 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 17:45 ` Heinz-Josef Claes
2009-04-28 20:16 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 20:36 ` Heinz-Josef Claes
2009-04-28 20:52 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 20:58 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-28 21:12 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 21:26 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-28 22:14 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 23:18 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-29 12:03 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-29 13:11 ` Michael Tharp
2009-04-29 13:14 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-29 13:58 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-29 14:31 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-29 15:26 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-29 15:45 ` Chris Mason
2009-06-04 8:49 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-06-04 11:43 ` Chris Mason
2009-06-04 12:03 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-06-04 12:43 ` Chris Mason
2009-06-05 12:20 ` Tomasz Chmielewski
2009-06-05 12:50 ` Chris Mason
2009-06-05 15:35 ` Tomasz Chmielewski
2009-04-29 0:06 ` Bron Gondwana
2009-05-06 15:16 ` Sander
2009-04-28 17:32 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 17:41 ` Michael Tharp
2009-04-28 20:14 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-05-04 14:29 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-05-04 14:39 ` Tomasz Chmielewski
2009-05-04 14:45 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-05-04 15:15 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-05-04 16:03 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-05-04 16:16 ` Andrey Kuzmin
2009-05-04 16:24 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-05-04 18:06 ` Jan-Frode Myklebust
2009-05-04 19:16 ` Andrey Kuzmin
2009-05-05 8:02 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-05-04 16:26 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-05-04 19:11 ` Heinz-Josef Claes
2009-05-04 21:29 ` Dmitri Nikulin
2009-05-05 7:18 ` Heinz-Josef Claes
2009-05-24 7:27 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 17:23 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-28 17:37 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 17:43 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-28 20:15 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 21:19 ` Dmitri Nikulin
2009-04-28 20:24 ` Thomas Glanzmann
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