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From: Lorenzo Pieralisi <lpieralisi@kernel.org>
To: Gavin Shan <gshan@redhat.com>
Cc: Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>,
	Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com>,
	Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com>,
	Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@arm.com>,
	Fuad Tabba <tabba@google.com>,
	linux-coco@lists.linux.dev,
	Ganapatrao Kulkarni <gankulkarni@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	Shanker Donthineni <sdonthineni@nvidia.com>,
	Alper Gun <alpergun@google.com>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K . V" <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>,
	Emi Kisanuki <fj0570is@fujitsu.com>,
	Vishal Annapurve <vannapurve@google.com>,
	WeiLin.Chang@arm.com, Lorenzo.Pieralisi2@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v14 29/44] arm64: RMI: Runtime faulting of memory
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2026 18:44:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aj6sdzlbxT8D5fnf@lpieralisi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8f81ed99-c53a-4196-baa2-adea9239a000@redhat.com>

On Fri, Jun 26, 2026 at 09:43:03PM +1000, Gavin Shan wrote:
> On 6/26/26 6:47 PM, Suzuki K Poulose wrote:
> > On 26/06/2026 08:43, Gavin Shan wrote:
> > > On 6/26/26 1:58 AM, Suzuki K Poulose wrote:
> > > > On 25/06/2026 14:53, Gavin Shan wrote:
> > > > > On 6/6/26 12:35 AM, Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, Jun 05, 2026 at 06:11:11PM +1000, Gavin Shan wrote:
> > > > > > > On 6/5/26 5:28 PM, Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 05, 2026 at 04:23:15PM +1000, Gavin Shan wrote:
> > > 
> > > [...]
> > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I tried to rebase Jean's latest QEMU series [1] to upstream QEMU, and found
> > > > > > > that memory slots backed by THP are broken. With THP disabled on the host and
> > > > > > > other fixes (mentioned in my prevous replies) applied on the top of this (v14)
> > > > > > > series, I'm able to boot a realm guest with rebased QEMU series [2], plus more
> > > > > > > fxies on the top.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > [1] https://git.codelinaro.org/linaro/dcap/qemu.git  (branch: cca/ latest)
> > > > > > > [2] https://git.qemu.org/git/qemu.git                (branch: cca/ gavin)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Lorenzo, You may be saying there is someone making QEMU to support ARM/CCA?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Mathieu and I are working on that yes and with Steven/Suzuki to fix the THP
> > > > > > issues you pointed out above.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > If so, I'm not sure if there is a QEMU repository for me to try?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > We should be able to submit patches by end of June - we shall let you know
> > > > > > whether we can make something available earlier.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Not sure if there are other known issues in this series. It seems the stage2
> > > > > page fault handling on the shared space isn't working well. In my test, the
> > > > > vring (struct vring_desc) of virtio-net-pci is updated by the guest, and the
> > > > > data isn't seen by QEMU, I'm suspecting if the host-page-frame-number is properly
> > > > > resolved in the s2 page fault handler for shared (unprotected) space.
> > > > > 
> > > > > - I rebased Jean's latest qemu branch to the upstream qemu;
> > > > > 
> > > > > - On the host, which is emulated by qemu/tcg, the THP (transparent huge page) is
> > > > >    disabled.
> > > > > 
> > > > > - On the guest, I can see the virtio vring (struct vring_desc) is updated. The
> > > > >    S1 page-table entry looks correct because the corresponding physical address
> > > > >    0x10046880000 is a sane shared (unprotected) space address.
> > > > > 
> > > > >    [   52.094143] software IO TLB: Memory encryption is active and system is using DMA bounce buffers
> > > > >    [   52.289746] virtqueue_add_desc_split: desc[0]@0xffff000006880000, [00000100b983f000  00000640  0002  0001]
> > > > >    [   52.432150] PTE 0x00e8010046880707 at address 0xffff000006880000
> > > > > 
> > > > > - On the host, the s2 page-table-entry is unmapped due to attribute transition (private -> shared).
> > > > >    A subsequent S2 page fault is raised against the adress and the s2 page-table-entry is built.
> > > > > 
> > > > >    [  109.259077] ====> realm_unmap_shared_range: tracked_unprot_addr=0x10046880000
> > > > >    [  109.260249] realm_unmap_shared_range: unmapped shared range at 0x10046880000
> > > > >    [  109.317786] realm_unmap_shared_range: unmapped shared range at 0x10046880000
> > > > >    [  109.629939] ====> kvm_handle_guest_abort: fault_ipa=0x10046880000, esr=0x92000007
> > > > >    [  109.630245] realm_map_non_secure: ipa=0x10046880000, pfn=0xb8b59, size=0x1000, prot=0xf
> > > > >    [  109.630331] realm_map_non_secure: ipa=0x10046880000, ipa_top=0x10046881000, flags=0x1e0001, range_desc=0xb8b59004
> > > > 
> > > > Are you able to correlate the order of the transitions and the Guest
> > > > access with RMM log ? We haven't seen this from our end. We are aware
> > > > of permission fault issues with Unprotected IPA when backing the memslot
> > > > with MAP_PRIVATE areas. But this looks different.
> > > > 
> > > > Lorenzo, have you run into this ?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > It's hard to correlate the order since the logs are collected from two separate
> > > consoles. For the write permission, I add code to the host where the permission
> > > is always added for all s2 page faults in the shared space. Otherwise, qemu can
> > > be killed by -EFAULT or similar error.
> > 
> > This is the problem. We can't add WRITE permission by default. I believe
> > you may have MAP_PRIVATE mapping and it has to be mapped as READ only
> > and on a permission fault, we replace it with a writable page. By
> > overriding the WRITE permission, you let the guest write to a page
> > that may not be seen by the VMM.
> > 
> > We identified this as a bug in the KVM driver in this series (reported
> > by Lorenzo) and there is a corresponding tf-RMM change that is required
> > to get this working. So, please could you wait until the next series
> > when this will be addressed ? Or you could switch to using MAP_SHARED
> > for the "shared" memory in the memslot.
> > 
> 
> Exactly. the syntax for MAP_PRIVATE is broken if the write permission is
> enforced for a read fault in the shared space. In my case, the host page can
> be the zero page and eventually multiple s2 page-table entries (for multiple
> unprotected or shared pages) point to the zero page. It's why clearing the
> 3rd queue (Ctrl queue) also clears the first queue (Rx queue) in my case.
> 
> Yes, this issue can be avoid by using a shared memory backend in qemu, something
> like below. With this, I'm able to see virtio-net-pci starts to work...
> 
>     -object memory-backend-ram,id=mem0,size=2G,share=yes

Yes, as Suzuki said that's what we have been fixing. QEmu patches
will be on the mailing lists very shortly - the KVM/tf-RMM fixes
to make MAP_PRIVATE work will be included in the next posting.

Feel free to drop your QEmu command line so that I can give it
a shot and check whether the fixes solve the problem you hit
(I think so because that's precisely the kind of issue I got
into when I started debugging THP/MAP_PRIVATE but it is better
to check).

Thanks,
Lorenzo

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-26 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 155+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-13 13:17 [PATCH v14 00/44] arm64: Support for Arm CCA in KVM Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 01/44] kvm: arm64: Include kvm_emulate.h in kvm/arm_psci.h Steven Price
2026-05-21 10:19   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-05-21 15:11     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 02/44] kvm: arm64: Avoid including linux/kvm_host.h in kvm_pgtable.h Steven Price
2026-05-21 10:26   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-05-21 15:11     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 03/44] arm64: RME: Handle Granule Protection Faults (GPFs) Steven Price
2026-05-21 12:25   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-05-21 15:15     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 04/44] arm64: RMI: Add SMC definitions for calling the RMM Steven Price
2026-05-18  7:08   ` Gavin Shan
2026-05-20 16:01     ` Steven Price
2026-05-21 12:40   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-05-21 14:50     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-05-21 15:33     ` Steven Price
2026-05-22  9:58       ` Marc Zyngier
2026-06-03 10:15         ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 05/44] arm64: RMI: Add wrappers for RMI calls Steven Price
2026-05-19  5:35   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-05-21 15:44     ` Steven Price
2026-05-21  0:21   ` Gavin Shan
2026-05-21 15:44     ` Steven Price
2026-05-21 12:49   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-05-21 15:44     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 06/44] arm64: RMI: Check for RMI support at init Steven Price
2026-05-21  0:39   ` Gavin Shan
2026-05-21 15:49     ` Steven Price
2026-05-25  6:58       ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-03 10:57         ` Steven Price
2026-05-21 13:02   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-06-03 10:57     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 07/44] arm64: RMI: Configure the RMM with the host's page size Steven Price
2026-05-21  0:51   ` Gavin Shan
2026-05-21 22:36     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-05-21 13:30   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-05-21 14:53     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-06-03 15:48     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 08/44] arm64: RMI: Ensure that the RMM has GPT entries for memory Steven Price
2026-05-19  5:55   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-06-03 15:48     ` Steven Price
2026-05-21  0:58   ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-03 15:48     ` Steven Price
2026-05-21 13:47   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-05-21 14:24     ` Marc Zyngier
2026-05-21 15:39     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-06-03 15:48       ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 09/44] arm64: RMI: Provide functions to delegate/undelegate ranges of memory Steven Price
2026-05-21 13:59   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-05-21 16:01     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-05-22 10:02       ` Marc Zyngier
2026-06-04 14:43     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 10/44] arm64: RMI: Add support for SRO Steven Price
2026-05-14  8:01   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-05-14  9:33     ` Steven Price
2026-05-19  6:02   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-06-04 15:19     ` Steven Price
2026-05-21  4:38   ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-04 15:19     ` Steven Price
2026-06-12 23:07       ` Dan Williams (nvidia)
2026-06-15 11:45         ` Steven Price
2026-05-21 14:35   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-06-04 15:19     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 11/44] arm64: RMI: Check for RMI support at KVM init Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 12/44] arm64: RMI: Check for LPA2 support Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 13/44] arm64: RMI: Define the user ABI Steven Price
2026-05-26 22:17   ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-06-04 15:27     ` Steven Price
2026-05-27 15:21   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-06-02 11:15     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-06-04 15:27     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 14/44] arm64: RMI: Basic infrastructure for creating a realm Steven Price
2026-05-19  6:31   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-05-28  7:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-06-02 14:49     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-06-04 15:55       ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 15/44] kvm: arm64: Don't expose unsupported capabilities for realm guests Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 16/44] KVM: arm64: Allow passing machine type in KVM creation Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 17/44] arm64: RMI: RTT tear down Steven Price
2026-05-19  6:54   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-05-26 22:27   ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-06-05 15:01     ` Steven Price
2026-05-26 22:32   ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-06-05 15:01     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 18/44] arm64: RMI: Activate realm on first VCPU run Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 19/44] arm64: RMI: Allocate/free RECs to match vCPUs Steven Price
2026-05-26 22:39   ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-06-05 15:02     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 20/44] arm64: RMI: Support for the VGIC in realms Steven Price
2026-05-28  4:07   ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-05 15:02     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 21/44] KVM: arm64: Support timers in realm RECs Steven Price
2026-05-28  4:11   ` Gavin Shan
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 22/44] arm64: RMI: Handle realm enter/exit Steven Price
2026-05-28  4:38   ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-05 15:02     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 23/44] arm64: RMI: Handle RMI_EXIT_RIPAS_CHANGE Steven Price
2026-05-19  9:40   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-06-05 15:02     ` Steven Price
2026-05-27 10:52   ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 24/44] KVM: arm64: Handle realm MMIO emulation Steven Price
2026-05-28  5:03   ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-08  8:49     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 25/44] KVM: arm64: Expose support for private memory Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 26/44] arm64: RMI: Allow populating initial contents Steven Price
2026-05-28  5:30   ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-08  9:36     ` Steven Price
2026-06-08  9:41       ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-06-08 13:53         ` Steven Price
2026-06-25 16:19           ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 27/44] arm64: RMI: Set RIPAS of initial memslots Steven Price
2026-05-19 10:02   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-05-19 10:13     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-05-19 12:55       ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-05-19 13:06         ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 28/44] arm64: RMI: Create the realm descriptor Steven Price
2026-05-26 22:47   ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-06-08  9:49     ` Steven Price
2026-05-28  5:51   ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-08  9:56     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 29/44] arm64: RMI: Runtime faulting of memory Steven Price
2026-06-05  6:23   ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-05  7:28     ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2026-06-05  8:11       ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-05 14:35         ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2026-06-25 13:53           ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-25 15:58             ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-06-26  7:43               ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-26  8:47                 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-06-26  9:04                   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-06-26 11:43                   ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-26 16:44                     ` Lorenzo Pieralisi [this message]
2026-06-08  9:30     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-06-08 10:56       ` Steven Price
2026-06-08 12:58         ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-06-05 11:20   ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-08 10:56     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 30/44] KVM: arm64: Handle realm VCPU load Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 31/44] KVM: arm64: Validate register access for a Realm VM Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 32/44] KVM: arm64: Handle Realm PSCI requests Steven Price
2026-05-28  6:55   ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-08 11:15     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 33/44] KVM: arm64: WARN on injected undef exceptions Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 34/44] arm64: RMI: allow userspace to inject aborts Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 35/44] arm64: RMI: support RSI_HOST_CALL Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 36/44] arm64: RMI: Allow checking SVE on VM instance Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 37/44] arm64: RMI: Prevent Device mappings for Realms Steven Price
2026-05-19 10:25   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 38/44] arm64: RMI: Propagate number of breakpoints and watchpoints to userspace Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 39/44] arm64: RMI: Set breakpoint parameters through SET_ONE_REG Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 40/44] arm64: RMI: Propagate max SVE vector length from RMM Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 41/44] arm64: RMI: Configure max SVE vector length for a Realm Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 42/44] arm64: RMI: Provide register list for unfinalized RMI RECs Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 43/44] arm64: RMI: Provide accurate register list Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 44/44] arm64: RMI: Enable realms to be created Steven Price

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