From: David Gibson <david-xT8FGy+AXnRB3Ne2BGzF6laj5H9X9Tb+@public.gmane.org>
To: David Miller <davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH] Device Tree on ARM platform
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 15:47:14 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090528054714.GM1464@yookeroo.seuss> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090527.223147.94364683.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:31:47PM -0700, David Miller wrote:
> From: David Gibson <david-xT8FGy+AXnRB3Ne2BGzF6laj5H9X9Tb+@public.gmane.org>
> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 14:47:32 +1000
>
> > The conceptual problem becomes apparent when you consider things like
> > i2c. The devtree is the obvious source to discover what i2c device
> > are present, but they need to be instantiated as i2c devices on the
> > i2c bus, not of platform devices.
>
> Sure, but there is no reason there can't be an of_platform driver
> for those i2c devices. And such instantiated devices get propagated
> either instantly to the parent, or later when the parent controller
> probes.
Right, but the point is the bus info is trying to do two things here -
one is to supply stuff that's actually common to the bus interface,
the other is the probing logic. That's usually connected to the bus
interface, but in the case of non-probeable basses on a system with a
devtree, that's no longer the case. As soon as the bus has some
common logic that's really related to the bus interface regardless of
platform, then you start losing to use of_platform instead of a
specific bus structure because you have to duplicate that -
essentially having both OF and non-OF variants of however many busses
we need.
I think its saner instead to have the device model stuff only
represent stuff that's actually related to the bus interface, and
separately instantiate things into those busses from an OF tree
traversal. I think this can be made as convenient as the current
setup for OF systems, though obviously I'll have to get around to
actually implementing it to be sure.
--
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| _way_ _around_!
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2009-05-27 14:27 ` [RFC] [PATCH] Device Tree on ARM platform Grant Likely
2009-05-27 14:39 ` Timur Tabi
[not found] ` <ed82fe3e0905270739k38018c87ka11f62c5977e45fb-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 15:05 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-05-27 16:32 ` Mark Brown
2009-05-27 18:50 ` Jon Smirl
[not found] ` <9e4733910905271150q1d51538draa8d039c8b147c05-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 22:24 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20090527222420.GC5591-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 0:04 ` Jon Smirl
2009-05-28 13:07 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20090527163223.GE1970-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 20:42 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <fa686aa40905271342v5bc51665tb9b5d92950a43b82-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 21:38 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20090527150527.GK6805-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 15:39 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <fa686aa40905270839m375bbdacqb1acb1be0a2d2da0-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 16:20 ` Robert Schwebel
[not found] ` <20090527162000.GM6805-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 20:35 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <fa686aa40905271335o1165419hda2334bef42aa3f-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 23:48 ` Robert Schwebel
[not found] ` <20090527234801.GP6805-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 23:52 ` David Miller
2009-05-27 23:58 ` Scott Wood
[not found] ` <4A1DD3A0.3010501-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 0:02 ` David Miller
2009-05-28 0:07 ` Robert Schwebel
[not found] ` <20090528000707.GR6805-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 0:15 ` David Miller
[not found] ` <20090527.171525.204909140.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 10:37 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20090528103745.GA19523-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 22:32 ` Grant Likely
2009-05-29 12:34 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20090529123411.GB14650-HF5t3jzXg/6ND3a5+9QAFujbO/Zr0HzV@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-30 9:52 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-30 10:21 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20090530102153.GA6910-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-30 17:56 ` Mark Brown
2009-06-02 7:57 ` Holger Schurig
[not found] ` <200906020957.20493.hs4233-x6+DxXLjN1AJvtFkdXX2Hg4jNU5vUVPG@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-02 9:48 ` Mark Brown
2009-05-28 2:57 ` David Gibson
[not found] ` <20090528025718.GC1464-787xzQ0H9iRg7VrjXcPTGA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 3:36 ` Grant Likely
2009-05-28 3:29 ` Grant Likely
2009-05-28 9:51 ` Wolfgang Denk
[not found] ` <20090528095126.99DB4832E416-C2Gvrrd9BC/j/ljBK/0BTg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 9:59 ` David Miller
2009-05-28 10:13 ` Robert Schwebel
[not found] ` <20090528101339.GV6805-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 13:33 ` Jon Smirl
[not found] ` <9e4733910905280633u15546189q37a4b4080158249c-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 13:42 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-05-28 9:38 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-05-28 3:21 ` Grant Likely
2009-05-28 3:16 ` Grant Likely
2009-05-28 0:55 ` Stephen Neuendorffer
2009-05-27 18:56 ` Alexander Clouter
[not found] ` <2ve0f6-8fn.ln1-kuKQLpWnKMRB2HF5bZY0Orm56z/blAVA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 20:46 ` Grant Likely
2009-05-27 21:32 ` Alexander Clouter
2009-05-28 14:29 ` Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
2009-05-27 15:41 ` Peter Korsgaard
[not found] ` <87vdnm8sec.fsf-uXGAPMMVk8amE9MCos8gUmSdvHPH+/yF@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 16:23 ` Scott Wood
2009-05-27 17:56 ` Russell King
[not found] ` <20090527175609.GB31861-f404yB8NqCZvn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 19:08 ` Scott Wood
[not found] ` <4A1D8FBA.6040802-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 19:13 ` Jon Smirl
2009-05-27 19:21 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20090527192116.GA31110-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 19:39 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
[not found] ` <20090527193927.GD30039-RQcB7r2h9QmfDR2tN2SG5Ni2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 20:22 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <fa686aa40905271322x2f62c3dcs355374b30b4db3ca-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 20:19 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
[not found] ` <20090527201951.GF30039-RQcB7r2h9QmfDR2tN2SG5Ni2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 20:54 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <fa686aa40905271354y50b9583cp9f53c35354edc285-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 3:04 ` David Gibson
2009-05-28 7:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-27 23:57 ` Robert Schwebel
[not found] ` <20090527235704.GQ6805-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 0:00 ` David Miller
2009-05-28 3:21 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <fa686aa40905272021w18a148caqd2b73c4448da2b28-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 6:34 ` Wolfram Sang
[not found] ` <20090528063445.GA12004-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 7:55 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-28 13:34 ` Grant Likely
2009-05-28 7:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-28 14:22 ` Ben Dooks
2009-05-27 20:28 ` David Miller
[not found] ` <20090527.132827.65331718.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 20:31 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2009-05-28 2:52 ` David Gibson
[not found] ` <20090528025258.GB1464-787xzQ0H9iRg7VrjXcPTGA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 4:27 ` David Miller
[not found] ` <20090527.212730.183576278.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 4:47 ` David Gibson
[not found] ` <20090528044732.GK1464-787xzQ0H9iRg7VrjXcPTGA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 5:31 ` David Miller
[not found] ` <20090527.223147.94364683.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 5:47 ` David Gibson [this message]
2009-05-28 7:47 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-28 14:17 ` Ben Dooks
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2009-05-28 14:47 ` Grant Likely
2009-05-27 19:29 ` Russell King
2009-05-27 19:47 ` Sergei Shtylyov
[not found] ` <20090527192909.GA32398-f404yB8NqCZvn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 19:53 ` Scott Wood
[not found] ` <4A1D9A1E.80603-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 19:54 ` Timur Tabi
[not found] ` <4A1D9A66.5020002-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 20:25 ` David Miller
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2009-05-27 20:27 ` Timur Tabi
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2009-05-27 20:55 ` David Miller
[not found] ` <20090527.135500.217447785.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 23:26 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-05-27 20:35 ` M. Warner Losh
2009-05-27 20:14 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
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[not found] ` <20090527.132328.78091350.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 20:27 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
[not found] ` <20090527202701.GA16219-RQcB7r2h9QmfDR2tN2SG5Ni2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 20:48 ` Josh Boyer
2009-05-27 20:56 ` David Miller
2009-05-27 20:52 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20090527205218.GA5591-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 21:05 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <fa686aa40905271405pc2f1738gc8dd139f61a0e27-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 0:11 ` Jon Smirl
2009-05-28 12:43 ` Sascha Hauer
2009-05-28 13:18 ` Thomas Gleixner
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2009-05-28 15:04 ` Sascha Hauer
[not found] ` <20090528150409.GO22742-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 15:27 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-29 0:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-29 7:52 ` Sascha Hauer
[not found] ` <20090529075238.GC24565-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-29 9:08 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-31 10:52 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20090528124307.GN22742-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 14:31 ` Grant Likely
2009-05-28 3:25 ` David Gibson
2009-05-28 8:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-28 7:38 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-27 20:43 ` Grant Likely
2009-05-28 7:37 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-28 9:15 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20090528091513.GA14789-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 9:57 ` David Miller
[not found] ` <20090528.025739.16559619.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 10:11 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-28 10:33 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-05-28 10:34 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20090528103421.GC14789-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 22:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-28 10:14 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20090528101440.GB14789-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 21:30 ` David Miller
2009-05-28 12:17 ` Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
2009-05-28 12:48 ` David Gibson
[not found] ` <20090528124817.GB4565-787xzQ0H9iRg7VrjXcPTGA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 12:55 ` David Gibson
2009-05-28 14:13 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <fa686aa40905280713u2b3ef5fvbe3d58ccdb629b60-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 16:53 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-05-28 17:05 ` Grant Likely
2009-05-28 18:46 ` Alexander Clouter
2009-05-28 22:21 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-29 1:39 ` David Gibson
[not found] ` <20090529013908.GA7831-787xzQ0H9iRg7VrjXcPTGA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-29 1:59 ` Mitch Bradley
[not found] ` <4A1F4189.8060702-D5eQfiDGL7eakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-29 3:52 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-29 4:11 ` David Miller
2009-05-29 4:11 ` David Miller
[not found] ` <20090528.211123.46272556.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-29 4:56 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-29 5:11 ` David Miller
2009-05-28 10:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-28 11:44 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2009-05-28 12:47 ` Jon Smirl
[not found] ` <9e4733910905280547w7ee65d40yb4b3ab9559e14dae-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 14:39 ` Grant Likely
2009-05-28 14:54 ` Grant Likely
2009-05-27 18:26 ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-05-28 3:02 ` David Gibson
2009-05-28 7:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-28 13:38 ` Grant Likely
2009-05-27 22:01 ` Mitch Bradley
[not found] ` <4A1DB855.2030608-D5eQfiDGL7eakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 8:17 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-27 17:44 ` Russell King
[not found] ` <20090527174440.GA31861-f404yB8NqCZvn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 17:52 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <fa686aa40905271052k3f55eb73k2cb0c3cff3c94d7b-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 3:44 ` David Gibson
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