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From: Sergei Shtylyov <sshtylyov@ru.mvista.com>
To: Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>,
	Peter Korsgaard <jacmet@sunsite.dk>,
	Robert Schwebel <r.schwebel@pengutronix.de>,
	devicetree-discuss <devicetree-discuss@ozlabs.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk,
	Janboe Ye <yuan-bo.ye@motorola.com>,
	Timur Tabi <timur@freescale.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH] Device Tree on ARM platform
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 23:47:21 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A1D98C9.9030908@ru.mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090527192909.GA32398@flint.arm.linux.org.uk>

Hello.

Russell King wrote:

>>>smc91x is a prime example of the kind of information drivers need - base
>>>address and irq are very much insufficient to describe how this device is
>>>connected.  There's much more information required to specify this device
>>>fully, and throwing it into the driver doesn't work.  We've been there
>>>and proven that point.

>>The device tree is quite capable of expressing information beyond  
>>addresses and interrupts.

> Bus width?  Register offset spacing?  SMC LED configuration?  Whether
> to use the hardware wait signal from the SMC?

    Yes, it's perefectly capable of all that. In fact, the first two items 
have already been defined for MTD and serial devices (though I wasn't happy 
about how the 2nd item was done IIRC).

> If you're going to say yes to all that, I'm going to start asking how
> you cope with verifying that the data for ethernet driver A doesn't
> get accidentally used for ethernet driver B.

    It's incorporated into the device node corresponding to Ethernet device 
A, which driver B doesn't drive.

> I assume you have some kind of compiler, which needs a set of specification
> files to tell it what's required for each driver which is OF compatible.

    The compiler is called (surprise :-) 'dtc'.

> If not, I can see no way for OF trees to ever be safe and correct.

WBR, Sergei

  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-27 19:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 142+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2009-05-27 14:27 ` [RFC] [PATCH] Device Tree on ARM platform Grant Likely
2009-05-27 14:39   ` Timur Tabi
     [not found]     ` <ed82fe3e0905270739k38018c87ka11f62c5977e45fb-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 15:05       ` Robert Schwebel
     [not found]         ` <20090527150527.GK6805-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 15:39           ` Grant Likely
     [not found]             ` <fa686aa40905270839m375bbdacqb1acb1be0a2d2da0-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 16:20               ` Robert Schwebel
     [not found]                 ` <20090527162000.GM6805-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 20:35                   ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                     ` <fa686aa40905271335o1165419hda2334bef42aa3f-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 23:48                       ` Robert Schwebel
     [not found]                         ` <20090527234801.GP6805-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 23:52                           ` David Miller
2009-05-27 23:58                           ` Scott Wood
     [not found]                             ` <4A1DD3A0.3010501-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28  0:02                               ` David Miller
2009-05-28  0:07                               ` Robert Schwebel
     [not found]                                 ` <20090528000707.GR6805-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28  0:15                                   ` David Miller
     [not found]                                     ` <20090527.171525.204909140.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 10:37                                       ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                                         ` <20090528103745.GA19523-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 22:32                                           ` Grant Likely
2009-05-29 12:34                                             ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                                               ` <20090529123411.GB14650-HF5t3jzXg/6ND3a5+9QAFujbO/Zr0HzV@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-30  9:52                                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-30 10:21                                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                                                     ` <20090530102153.GA6910-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-30 17:56                                                       ` Mark Brown
2009-06-02  7:57                                                     ` Holger Schurig
     [not found]                                                       ` <200906020957.20493.hs4233-x6+DxXLjN1AJvtFkdXX2Hg4jNU5vUVPG@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-02  9:48                                                         ` Mark Brown
2009-05-28  2:57                                   ` David Gibson
     [not found]                                     ` <20090528025718.GC1464-787xzQ0H9iRg7VrjXcPTGA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28  3:36                                       ` Grant Likely
2009-05-28  3:29                                   ` Grant Likely
2009-05-28  9:51                                     ` Wolfgang Denk
     [not found]                                       ` <20090528095126.99DB4832E416-C2Gvrrd9BC/j/ljBK/0BTg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28  9:59                                         ` David Miller
2009-05-28 10:13                                         ` Robert Schwebel
     [not found]                                           ` <20090528101339.GV6805-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 13:33                                             ` Jon Smirl
     [not found]                                               ` <9e4733910905280633u15546189q37a4b4080158249c-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 13:42                                                 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-05-28  9:38                                 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-05-28  3:21                               ` Grant Likely
2009-05-28  3:16                           ` Grant Likely
2009-05-28  0:55                   ` Stephen Neuendorffer
2009-05-27 18:56             ` Alexander Clouter
     [not found]               ` <2ve0f6-8fn.ln1-kuKQLpWnKMRB2HF5bZY0Orm56z/blAVA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 20:46                 ` Grant Likely
2009-05-27 21:32                   ` Alexander Clouter
2009-05-28 14:29                     ` Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
2009-05-27 15:41           ` Peter Korsgaard
     [not found]             ` <87vdnm8sec.fsf-uXGAPMMVk8amE9MCos8gUmSdvHPH+/yF@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 16:23               ` Scott Wood
2009-05-27 17:56                 ` Russell King
     [not found]                   ` <20090527175609.GB31861-f404yB8NqCZvn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 19:08                     ` Scott Wood
     [not found]                       ` <4A1D8FBA.6040802-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 19:13                         ` Jon Smirl
2009-05-27 19:21                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                             ` <20090527192116.GA31110-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 19:39                               ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
     [not found]                                 ` <20090527193927.GD30039-RQcB7r2h9QmfDR2tN2SG5Ni2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 20:22                                   ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                                     ` <fa686aa40905271322x2f62c3dcs355374b30b4db3ca-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 20:19                                       ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
     [not found]                                         ` <20090527201951.GF30039-RQcB7r2h9QmfDR2tN2SG5Ni2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 20:54                                           ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                                             ` <fa686aa40905271354y50b9583cp9f53c35354edc285-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28  3:04                                               ` David Gibson
2009-05-28  7:58                                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-27 23:57                                       ` Robert Schwebel
     [not found]                                         ` <20090527235704.GQ6805-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28  0:00                                           ` David Miller
2009-05-28  3:21                                           ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                                             ` <fa686aa40905272021w18a148caqd2b73c4448da2b28-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28  6:34                                               ` Wolfram Sang
     [not found]                                                 ` <20090528063445.GA12004-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28  7:55                                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-28 13:34                                                   ` Grant Likely
2009-05-28  7:48                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-28 14:22                                     ` Ben Dooks
2009-05-27 20:28                                   ` David Miller
     [not found]                                     ` <20090527.132827.65331718.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 20:31                                       ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2009-05-28  2:52                               ` David Gibson
     [not found]                                 ` <20090528025258.GB1464-787xzQ0H9iRg7VrjXcPTGA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28  4:27                                   ` David Miller
     [not found]                                     ` <20090527.212730.183576278.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28  4:47                                       ` David Gibson
     [not found]                                         ` <20090528044732.GK1464-787xzQ0H9iRg7VrjXcPTGA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28  5:31                                           ` David Miller
     [not found]                                             ` <20090527.223147.94364683.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28  5:47                                               ` David Gibson
2009-05-28  7:47                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-28 14:17                           ` Ben Dooks
2009-05-28 14:24                             ` Robert Schwebel
     [not found]                             ` <20090528141743.GA16199-SMNkleLxa3Z6Wcw2j4pizdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 14:47                               ` Grant Likely
2009-05-27 19:29                         ` Russell King
2009-05-27 19:47                           ` Sergei Shtylyov [this message]
     [not found]                           ` <20090527192909.GA32398-f404yB8NqCZvn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 19:53                             ` Scott Wood
     [not found]                               ` <4A1D9A1E.80603-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 19:54                                 ` Timur Tabi
     [not found]                                   ` <4A1D9A66.5020002-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 20:25                                     ` David Miller
     [not found]                                       ` <20090527.132553.40558501.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 20:27                                         ` Timur Tabi
     [not found]                                           ` <4A1DA24D.5000101-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 20:55                                             ` David Miller
     [not found]                                               ` <20090527.135500.217447785.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 23:26                                                 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-05-27 20:35                                       ` M. Warner Losh
2009-05-27 20:14                                 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2009-05-27 20:23                             ` David Miller
     [not found]                               ` <20090527.132328.78091350.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 20:27                                 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
     [not found]                                   ` <20090527202701.GA16219-RQcB7r2h9QmfDR2tN2SG5Ni2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 20:48                                     ` Josh Boyer
2009-05-27 20:56                                     ` David Miller
2009-05-27 20:52                             ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                               ` <20090527205218.GA5591-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 21:05                                 ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                                   ` <fa686aa40905271405pc2f1738gc8dd139f61a0e27-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28  0:11                                     ` Jon Smirl
2009-05-28 12:43                                     ` Sascha Hauer
2009-05-28 13:18                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
     [not found]                                         ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905281457170.3397-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 15:04                                           ` Sascha Hauer
     [not found]                                             ` <20090528150409.GO22742-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 15:27                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-29  0:51                                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-29  7:52                                                 ` Sascha Hauer
     [not found]                                                   ` <20090529075238.GC24565-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-29  9:08                                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-31 10:52                                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                                       ` <20090528124307.GN22742-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 14:31                                         ` Grant Likely
2009-05-28  3:25                                 ` David Gibson
2009-05-28  8:10                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-28  7:38                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-27 20:43                     ` Grant Likely
2009-05-28  7:37                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-28  9:15                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                         ` <20090528091513.GA14789-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28  9:57                           ` David Miller
     [not found]                             ` <20090528.025739.16559619.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 10:11                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-28 10:33                                 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-05-28 10:34                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                                   ` <20090528103421.GC14789-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 22:33                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-28 10:14                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                                 ` <20090528101440.GB14789-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 21:30                                   ` David Miller
2009-05-28 12:17                             ` Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
2009-05-28 12:48                               ` David Gibson
     [not found]                                 ` <20090528124817.GB4565-787xzQ0H9iRg7VrjXcPTGA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 12:55                                   ` David Gibson
2009-05-28 14:13                               ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                                 ` <fa686aa40905280713u2b3ef5fvbe3d58ccdb629b60-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 16:53                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-05-28 17:05                                     ` Grant Likely
2009-05-28 18:46                                     ` Alexander Clouter
2009-05-28 22:21                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-29  1:39                                     ` David Gibson
     [not found]                                       ` <20090529013908.GA7831-787xzQ0H9iRg7VrjXcPTGA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-29  1:59                                         ` Mitch Bradley
     [not found]                                           ` <4A1F4189.8060702-D5eQfiDGL7eakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-29  3:52                                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-29  4:11                                               ` David Miller
2009-05-29  4:11                                             ` David Miller
     [not found]                                               ` <20090528.211123.46272556.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-29  4:56                                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-29  5:11                                                   ` David Miller
2009-05-28 10:00                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-28 11:44                           ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2009-05-28 12:47                           ` Jon Smirl
     [not found]                             ` <9e4733910905280547w7ee65d40yb4b3ab9559e14dae-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 14:39                               ` Grant Likely
2009-05-28 14:54                           ` Grant Likely
2009-05-27 18:26                 ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-05-28  3:02           ` David Gibson
2009-05-28  7:32           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-28 13:38             ` Grant Likely
2009-05-27 16:32         ` Mark Brown
2009-05-27 18:50           ` Jon Smirl
     [not found]             ` <9e4733910905271150q1d51538draa8d039c8b147c05-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 22:24               ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                 ` <20090527222420.GC5591-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28  0:04                   ` Jon Smirl
2009-05-28 13:07                     ` Mark Brown
     [not found]           ` <20090527163223.GE1970-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 20:42             ` Grant Likely
     [not found]               ` <fa686aa40905271342v5bc51665tb9b5d92950a43b82-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 21:38                 ` Mark Brown
2009-05-27 22:01       ` Mitch Bradley
     [not found]         ` <4A1DB855.2030608-D5eQfiDGL7eakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28  8:17           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-27 17:44   ` Russell King
     [not found]     ` <20090527174440.GA31861-f404yB8NqCZvn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 17:52       ` Grant Likely
     [not found]         ` <fa686aa40905271052k3f55eb73k2cb0c3cff3c94d7b-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28  3:44           ` David Gibson

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