From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Manivannan Sadhasivam <mani@kernel.org>
Cc: manivannan.sadhasivam@oss.qualcomm.com,
"Lorenzo Pieralisi" <lpieralisi@kernel.org>,
"Krzysztof Wilczyński" <kwilczynski@kernel.org>,
"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
"Bartosz Golaszewski" <brgl@bgdev.pl>,
"Saravana Kannan" <saravanak@google.com>,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
"Krishna Chaitanya Chundru" <krishna.chundru@oss.qualcomm.com>,
"Brian Norris" <briannorris@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/4] PCI: qcom: Allow pwrctrl core to control PERST# if 'reset-gpios' property is available
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2025 11:00:41 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250922160041.GA1972113@bhelgaas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <nxcr6ymgspcdofoy7cv4lok34qqucwrm4cxn7a7spqrszgmvin@x3mhucqy2tb3>
On Fri, Sep 19, 2025 at 01:45:51PM +0530, Manivannan Sadhasivam wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 01:53:56PM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 03:53:25PM +0530, Manivannan Sadhasivam wrote:
> > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 03:48:10PM GMT, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 02:05:04PM +0530, Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay wrote:
> > > > > From: Manivannan Sadhasivam <manivannan.sadhasivam@oss.qualcomm.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > For historic reasons, the pcie-qcom driver was controlling the
> > > > > power supply and PERST# GPIO of the PCIe slot.
> > > >
> > > > > This turned out to be an issue as the power supply requirements
> > > > > differ between components. For instance, some of the WLAN
> > > > > chipsets used in Qualcomm systems were connected to the Root
> > > > > Port in a non-standard way using their own connectors.
> > > >
> > > > This is kind of hand-wavy. I don't know what a non-standard
> > > > connector has to do with this. I assume there's still a PCIe link
> > > > from Root Port to WLAN, and there's still a PERST# signal to the
> > > > WLAN device and a Root Port GPIO that asserts/deasserts it.
> > >
> > > If we have a non-standard connector, then the power supply
> > > requirements change. There is no longer the standard 3.3v, 3.3Vaux,
> > > 1.8v supplies, but plenty more. For instance, take a look at the
> > > WCN6855 WiFi/BT combo chip in the Lenovo X13s laptop:
> > >
> > > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/arch/arm64/boot/dts/qcom/sc8280xp-lenovo-thinkpad-x13s.dts#n414
> > >
> > > These supplies directly go from the host PMIC to the WCN6855 chip
> > > integrated in the PCB itself. And these supplies need to be turned
> > > on/off in a sequence also, together with the EN/SWCTRL GPIOs, while
> > > sharing with the Bluetooth driver.
> >
> > It sounds like the WCN6855 power supplies have nothing to do with the
> > qcom PCIe controller, the Root Port, or any switches leading to the
> > WCN6855. And I guess the same for the wlan-enable, bt-enable, and
> > swctrl GPIOs?
> >
> > wcn6855-pmu {
> > compatible = "qcom,wcn6855-pmu";
> > wlan-enable-gpios = <&tlmm 134 GPIO_ACTIVE_HIGH>;
> > bt-enable-gpios = <&tlmm 133 GPIO_ACTIVE_HIGH>;
> > swctrl-gpios = <&tlmm 132 GPIO_ACTIVE_HIGH>;
> > regulators {
> > vreg_pmu_rfa_cmn_0p8: ldo0 {
> > regulator-name = "vreg_pmu_rfa_cmn_0p8";
> > ...
> >
> > &pcie4_port0 {
> > wifi@0 {
> > compatible = "pci17cb,1103";
> > vddrfacmn-supply = <&vreg_pmu_rfa_cmn_0p8>;
> > ...
> >
> > But I guess PERST# isn't described in the same place (not in
> > wcn6855-pmu)? Looks like maybe it's this, which IIUC is part of the
> > pcie4 host bridge?
> >
> > &pcie4 {
> > max-link-speed = <2>;
> > perst-gpios = <&tlmm 141 GPIO_ACTIVE_LOW>;
> > wake-gpios = <&tlmm 139 GPIO_ACTIVE_LOW>;
> >
> > Does that mean this PERST# signal is driven by a GPIO and routed
> > directly to the WCN6855? Seems like there's some affinity between the
> > WCN6855 power supplies and the WCN6855 PERST# signal, and maybe they
> > would be better described together?
>
> Yes, 'perst-gpios' is the PERST# signal that goes from the host
> system to the WCN6855 chip. But we cannot define this signal in the
> WCN6855 node as the DT binding only allows to define it in the PCI
> bridge nodes. This is why it is currently defined in the host bridge
> node. But when this platform switches to the per-Root Port binding,
> this property will be moved to the Root Port node as 'reset-gpios'.
I'm questioning what the right place is to describe PERST#. Neither
the host bridge/Root Complex nor the Root Port has any architected
support for asserting PERST#, so we can't write generic code to handle
it.
The PERST# signal is defined by the CEM specs, so can be physically
included in a standard connector or cable that carries the Link. The
Link is originated by a Downstream Port, and the PCIe spec tells us
how to operate the Link using the DP's Link Control, Link Status, etc.
But PERST# might not originate in the Downstream Port, and the spec
doesn't tell us how to assert/deassert it, so I'm not sure it really
fits in the same class as things like 'max-link-speed' and
'num-lanes'. Maybe it doesn't need to be in either the host bridge or
the Root Port?
> Because of this reason, the host controller driver has to parse
> PERST# from all PCI bridge nodes (like if there is a switch
> connected, there might be PERST# per downstream port) and share them
> with the pwrctrl framework.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-22 16:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-12 8:35 [PATCH v3 0/4] PCI/pwrctrl: Allow pwrctrl framework to control PERST# if available Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay
2025-09-12 8:35 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] PCI/pwrctrl: Add support for asserting/deasserting PERST# Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay
2025-09-12 8:35 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] PCI: qcom: Move host bridge 'phy' and 'reset' pointers to struct qcom_pcie_port Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay
2025-09-12 23:23 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-09-15 13:01 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-09-16 20:08 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-09-17 10:10 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-09-12 8:35 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] PCI: qcom: Parse PERST# from all PCIe bridge nodes Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay
2025-09-12 23:28 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-09-15 12:53 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-09-16 19:49 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-09-17 10:08 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-09-12 8:35 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] PCI: qcom: Allow pwrctrl core to control PERST# if 'reset-gpios' property is available Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay
2025-09-16 20:48 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-09-17 10:23 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-09-18 18:53 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-09-19 8:15 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-09-22 16:00 ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2025-09-22 16:33 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-09-17 10:10 ` (subset) [PATCH v3 0/4] PCI/pwrctrl: Allow pwrctrl framework to control PERST# if available Manivannan Sadhasivam
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