From: Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>
To: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
Cc: Santhosh Kumar K <s-k6@ti.com>,
broonie@kernel.org, robh@kernel.org, krzk+dt@kernel.org,
conor+dt@kernel.org, richard@nod.at, vigneshr@ti.com,
pratyush@kernel.org, mwalle@kernel.org,
takahiro.kuwano@infineon.com, linux-spi@vger.kernel.org,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, praneeth@ti.com,
u-kumar1@ti.com, a-dutta@ti.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/13] spi: dt-bindings: allow spi-max-frequency to specify a frequency pair
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2026 18:29:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o6hry4d4.fsf@bootlin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260603-neatly-twine-e89b923f5cb6@spud> (Conor Dooley's message of "Wed, 3 Jun 2026 17:07:21 +0100")
>> >> > The non-PHY frequency is a controller limitation/capability rather than
>> >> > a flash characteristic, so it seems more appropriate to keep it in the
>> >> > controller driver as Conor suggested.
>> >>
>> >> The non tuned frequency is the maximum frequency one could use
>> >> reliably. It is not controller specific. It is mostly board specific,
>> >> and to some extend may also be chip specific.
>> >>
>> >> The tuned frequency is the maximum frequency one could use reliably
>> >> after line a controller or chip specific training procedure. It is
>> >> also the result of an aggregated set of non discoverable hardware
>> >> limitations:
>> >> - board routing
>> >> - chip capability
>> >> - controller capability
>> >
>> > Right, and this I guess is what scuppers letting the controller driver
>> > sort the configuration out itself and leaving the property as-is.
>> > It could be that the speed in spi-max-frequency is lower than the "base
>> > speed" of the controller but because of board routing or device
>> > capability that the tuned mode is still required, right?
>>
>> I do not actually expect any tuned mode/frequency to be mandatory.
>
> I think you misunderstood my use of "required", I meant that the new
> property/information was needed in the scenario I described, not that it
> should be a required property in a binding.
Yes I misunderstood the term indeed. However I still fail to catch what
you meant here, I'm sorry. Would you mind rephrasing?
Just to clarify, tuned modes are only bonuses.
Miquèl
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-03 16:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-27 17:55 [PATCH v3 00/13] spi: cadence-quadspi: add PHY tuning support Santhosh Kumar K
2026-05-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v3 01/13] spi: dt-bindings: allow spi-max-frequency to specify a frequency pair Santhosh Kumar K
2026-05-27 18:17 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-28 8:32 ` Miquel Raynal
2026-05-28 17:36 ` Conor Dooley
2026-05-30 8:54 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-06-01 7:45 ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-06-02 12:05 ` Miquel Raynal
2026-06-02 16:18 ` Conor Dooley
2026-06-03 15:54 ` Miquel Raynal
2026-06-03 16:07 ` Conor Dooley
2026-06-03 16:29 ` Miquel Raynal [this message]
2026-06-03 16:40 ` Conor Dooley
2026-05-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v3 02/13] spi: dt-bindings: cdns,qspi-nor: add PHY tuning pattern partition property Santhosh Kumar K
2026-05-27 18:11 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-28 8:34 ` Miquel Raynal
2026-05-30 8:52 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-06-01 8:26 ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-06-01 11:26 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-06-01 11:47 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-06-02 6:30 ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-06-02 12:08 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-06-02 12:36 ` Miquel Raynal
2026-06-02 12:48 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-06-02 16:49 ` Rob Herring
2026-06-03 16:01 ` Miquel Raynal
2026-06-03 17:38 ` Rob Herring
2026-06-03 19:00 ` Michael Walle
2026-05-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v3 03/13] spi: parse two-element spi-max-frequency property Santhosh Kumar K
2026-05-27 18:19 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-28 8:37 ` Miquel Raynal
2026-05-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v3 04/13] spi: spi-mem: add spi_mem_apply_base_freq_cap() Santhosh Kumar K
2026-05-27 18:32 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-28 8:43 ` Miquel Raynal
2026-05-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v3 05/13] spi: spi-mem: add execute_tuning callback and spi_mem_execute_tuning() Santhosh Kumar K
2026-05-27 18:21 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-28 8:44 ` Miquel Raynal
2026-05-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v3 06/13] spi: cadence-quadspi: move cqspi_readdata_capture earlier Santhosh Kumar K
2026-05-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v3 07/13] spi: cadence-quadspi: add DQS support to read data capture Santhosh Kumar K
2026-05-27 18:17 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v3 08/13] spi: cadence-quadspi: add PHY tuning support Santhosh Kumar K
2026-05-27 18:44 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-28 8:54 ` Miquel Raynal
2026-06-01 8:44 ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-05-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v3 09/13] spi: cadence-quadspi: reject 2-byte-address DDR ops on PHY-tunable hardware Santhosh Kumar K
2026-05-28 9:01 ` Miquel Raynal
2026-06-01 9:27 ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-06-02 12:25 ` Miquel Raynal
2026-05-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v3 10/13] spi: cadence-quadspi: enable PHY for direct reads and indirect writes Santhosh Kumar K
2026-05-27 18:36 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-28 9:09 ` Miquel Raynal
2026-06-01 8:39 ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-06-02 12:15 ` Miquel Raynal
2026-05-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v3 11/13] mtd: spinand: run PHY tuning after init and update dirmap frequencies Santhosh Kumar K
2026-05-27 19:04 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-28 9:27 ` Miquel Raynal
2026-06-01 9:16 ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-06-02 12:18 ` Miquel Raynal
2026-05-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v3 12/13] mtd: spi-nor: extract read op template construction into helper Santhosh Kumar K
2026-05-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v3 13/13] mtd: spi-nor: run PHY tuning after init and update dirmap frequency Santhosh Kumar K
2026-05-27 18:59 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-28 8:30 ` [PATCH v3 00/13] spi: cadence-quadspi: add PHY tuning support Miquel Raynal
2026-06-01 8:02 ` Santhosh Kumar K
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