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From: Tomi Manninen <oh2bns@sral.fi>
To: Ken Koster <n7ipb@wetnet.net>
Cc: ax25@x-berg.in-berlin.de, linux-hams@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ax25-apps/-tools: clarification about the project status
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:43:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <497CF91A.5000001@sral.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200901251411.57323.n7ipb@wetnet.net>

Hi again,

I have to say it's only now that I really read what's written on the
linux-ax25 wiki page and especially on the "History" page.

And now I'm somewhat less enthusiastic about what is going on with
the stuff..

 From the wiki page, I get the feeling that the maintainers do not
want things to be discussed openly in a centralized place. They want
people to contact them, not discuss openly with other people.

And then they wonder:

'We really wonder why over the years nobody came to the idea to say
"Hey dear maintainers, i'm in an important discussion on the
mailinglist xyz, you're requested to join in".'

Well, you might just want to ponder on that for a while longer.
Perhaps the problem is not in the people that simply do not know
how to play to your tune.

Finally:

'Collaboration work means working together, not against each other.'

Yes, and that should begin from the maintainers doing real
maintainership, gathering people to some common medium and encouraging
people to participate and share. Not requiring "the mountain come
to mohammed", especially when the mountain doesn't seem to know where
mohammed is...

Ken Koster wrote:
>> *) Like I said, I don't feel very strongly about linux ax.25
>> anymore, but I do feel _very_ strongly about using wikis and
>> web forums for discussion on open source software. It sucks!
>> I just hope that isn't happening here...
> 
> And to that I'll add 'IRC' channels.

Well, apparently wconvers is on the supported list according to the
wiki. I don't want to even get started on that one.

I'm really happy I don't care about Linux AX.25 anymore...

-- 
Tomi Manninen / OH2BNS / KP20JE01FK

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-25 23:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-25 14:43 ax25-apps/-tools: clarification about the project status Thomas Osterried
2009-01-25 21:29 ` Tomi Manninen
2009-01-25 22:11   ` Ken Koster
2009-01-25 23:43     ` Tomi Manninen [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-01-26 17:31 IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR

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